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In this episode of African News Review, Adesoji Iginla, alongside Milton Allimadi and Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq., discuss various pressing global issues, including the interconnectedness of world events, the shifting narrative around domestic terrorism in the US, and the increasing vocalisation of African leaders at the UN General Assembly. 

They delve into the contentious topic of reparations for colonialism, the struggles faced by the Maasai people in Tanzania, and the ongoing impact of neocolonialism in Africa. 

The conversation emphasises the importance of education, grassroots movements, and historical context in understanding and addressing these complex issues.

Takeaways

*The world is interconnected, and events in one region affect others.
*The narrative around domestic terrorism in the US is shifting.
*African leaders are increasingly vocal about their needs at the UN.
*Reparations for colonialism remain a contentious issue.
*The Maasai people face displacement due to government policies.
*Historical context is crucial for understanding current events.
*The role of African leaders in global discussions is evolving.
*Neocolonialism continues to impact African nations.
*The importance of grassroots movements in effecting change.
*Education and awareness are key to combating misinformation.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Current Events Overview
04:05 Reflections on Global Power Dynamics
08:36 UN General Assembly Insights
17:48 African Leaders' Voices at the UN
27:01 Critique of Leadership and Domestic Issues
31:21 The Call for African Unity and Resource Leverage
32:40 Uganda's Political Landscape and Leadership Challenges
35:14 Media Representation and Political Narratives
40:54 Classism and Political Dynamics in Uganda
45:56 Reparations and Historical Accountability
52:38 The Power of Response and Projection
53:58 Colonialism and Its Misrepresentation
55:42 Reparations and Historical Context
56:24 The Role of Education in Liberation
57:55 Understanding the Narrative of Complicity
59:05 The Impact of Colonialism on Indigenous Peoples
01:01:23 Neocolonialism and Environmental Concerns
01:05:16 Cultural Preservation vs. Economic Development
01:07:23 The Future of African Identity and Values
01:09:41 Reflections on Revolutionary Spirits

Transcript

Adesoji Iginla (00:02.234)
Yes, greetings, greetings, and welcome to another episode of African News Review. I am your host, Adesuji Iginla. And with me, as usual, is my sister from another mother, Ayafubara Enelie Esquire, co-host of Women and Resistance, and also the singular host of Rethinking Freedom. Welcome, sister.

Aya Fubara Eneli (00:29.209)
Thank you. Good to be here.

Adesoji Iginla (00:31.28)
Thank you. Thank you. Welcome back. Yeah, he needs no further introduction. The author of Manufacturing Hate, editor of Black Star News, and regular contributor to African News Review, comrade Milton Al-Mahdi.

Milton Allimadi (00:51.22)
Thank you.

Adesoji Iginla (00:52.538)
Welcome comrade. And so as it's become custom, news from where you're at. I will start with the sister first because I think if we allow the good comrade to go first, he might take it global.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:06.393)
Well, everything at this point, we understand that the world is shrinking. And so everything that happens in one place affects another, whether we want to recognize that or not. Of course, I'm in Texas in the United States of America. And this past week, we had a shooting at an ICE detention center.

Adesoji Iginla (01:19.643)
Mm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:32.535)
The captured alleged shooter is a white young man. They're claiming that the bullets had anti-ICE written on it. Not sure what that means. He has to be the worst shot in the world because supposedly he was the narrative from the FBIs. He was attacking the ICE agents.

but he killed an immigrant who is not white and shot two others who were not white and did not so much as Nick, any of the ICE agents. So I'm not really sure who his target was based on his results, but we continue to see white men.

Milton Allimadi (02:14.886)
Right.

Aya Fubara Eneli (02:27.669)
unleashing violence on the rest of the world and particularly here in the United States of America. And so that is, and of course, as soon as the shooting was announced, the vice president of the United States, who I guess is setting himself up to take over from Trump, signs of decline continue to.

show themselves, he immediately blamed it on the quote unquote left and attacked Democrats and there's a whole narrative now about Democrats really being domestic terrorists and as such to be targeted and I believe this morning

the felon in chief using the new governing tool, I guess, which is Truth Social, put out a tweet disparaging Portland, Oregon and commanding or authorizing Pete Hexeth, the newscaster turned defense secretary to utilize whatever troops he needs to.

to go in and take over Portland. So we are seeing America attack its own in broad daylight, unprovoked. are no insurrections, no issues going on in.

Portland, Oregon that should warrant this kind of response. And at the same time, just in the neck of the woods of the United States as a whole, Pete Hexseth has thought it wise to command all of the major, the leading generals across the United States of America, wherever they were stationed in the world.

Aya Fubara Eneli (04:30.553)
to attend, believe there are 800 that have been summoned to attend a meeting in Virginia. And listen, I'm no major military strategist, but on no level does it make sense that you would gather.

Adesoji Iginla (04:36.55)
to come in.

Aya Fubara Eneli (04:52.377)
all of your top generals in one place and announce it to the world that you are gathering all of your top generals in one place. And the question is to what end? Are they there to swear an oath to the president as opposed to the constitution? What is going to be, what comes out of this? And if he has his way, no reporter can report on anything

Adesoji Iginla (05:22.342)
transpisable.

Aya Fubara Eneli (05:22.399)
except for the authorized narrative from the Department of Defense. So freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of assembly, we can go ahead and shred those aspects of the so-called US Constitution.

Adesoji Iginla (05:41.03)
Mmm.

Whoa, whoa. Brother Milton, try and that. Try and beat that, please.

Milton Allimadi (05:46.56)
Yes.

Okay, so remember how Britain officially became not Great Britain? Remember what year it was exactly officially? You in the UK, you should remember that incident, right? The Suez Crisis, 1956-57, when Britain thought it was still an imperial power, know, colluded with France and Israel to invade Egypt.

Adesoji Iginla (05:56.991)
Adesoji Iginla (06:03.256)
Yes, yes, yes.

Adesoji Iginla (06:07.726)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Milton Allimadi (06:17.758)
because Egypt, Nasser had nationalized this way as canal. And the US president, Eisenhower, said back off. And Britain was stunned, wait a minute. We in this together. The United States said, no, we are not. That was the official end of Britain as a global power. I think the official end of the United States came with

Donald Trump's speech at the UN. First of all, members, you know, the South countries that shrugged it off. Nobody was embarrassed by it. He was the one that ended up embarrassing the country. And in terms of what he said, I mean, I didn't even bother listening to the whole thing. But he starts off by complaining to a global audience about the escalator stopping.

And if he and his wife were not fit, they would have fallen. And he's complaining about the teleprompter. And then, you know, from then on, was just downhill all the way. Well, it was never, it never had a chance of going anywhere anyway, right? Bashing the previous US administration as that is the setting of the UN. Who wants to hear about that, the UN, right? And then how everything has been up

Adesoji Iginla (07:38.982)
and

Milton Allimadi (07:44.4)
since he became president. The stock market is up and all of you are benefiting from it, as Waeli's saying, as if all those delegates are buying shares on Wall Street. And then his claim of solving a global conflict and the one he did, seven, and the ones he did in the past, he didn't even get a thank you call from the UN, he said.

Adesoji Iginla (07:46.662)
You

Aya Fubara Eneli (08:04.217)
Stop it.

Aya Fubara Eneli (08:10.839)
Yes.

Milton Allimadi (08:13.589)
I'm telling you, these, mean, obviously it's still a colossal military power, right?

Aya Fubara Eneli (08:20.697)
And he was going to take care of that teleprompter. Someone was in trouble. Someone's going to get fired.

Milton Allimadi (08:26.191)
Absolutely. And he said that, right? know, that person is going to get into it. Think about that. You know? So that to me is the official, I would say that is the date that historians would recall, right? I mean, the evidence is already manifest everywhere. The economic decline, the rise of China.

Adesoji Iginla (08:31.32)
You

Adesoji Iginla (08:49.766)
political.

Milton Allimadi (08:53.839)
and the rise of other nations coming together like Brazil, India, the BRICS countries, you know. So it was appropriate that a person of that lack of caliber was the one that gets to address the UN at this unique time in history. Of course, as the sister pointed out, it's going to be very rough for the next many months and the next couple of years as well.

the US has to adjust itself to this new realization. You I think it took Britain decades, you know. Britain had to go to invade an empty island called the Falklands. I remember a couple of decades ago, to still say, know, we are still relevant, we are still relevant. Very soon the US will start engaging those types of activities as well. So that's my observation from domestically.

Aya Fubara Eneli (09:41.698)
Yes.

Adesoji Iginla (09:53.606)
Okay, so thank you for sharing. In the UK, the idea of global surveillance continues. The prime minister muted the idea of having a digital ID for every Britain in the United Kingdom. So basically that ID will hold all your data. So at the push of a button,

They've got all your information. Now the problem with that idea is it's not going to be managed by governments. It's possibly going to be managed by a corporate. Thank you very much. And a private company had already been fingered as being already in place to run similar type systems, which is Palantir.

Milton Allimadi (10:34.083)
private company.

Adesoji Iginla (10:52.334)
And so for people who don't know what Palantir is or what the company is about, you could Google it and let's just say, don't do it while you're holding a hot cup of coffee because you might scold yourself. That said, the news of the world has Africa plastered all over it. And so we go to the UN General Assembly, which marked eight years.

I mean, that comes with a whole lot of problems itself. But the first story comes from Dutch Vela. And it is that the Africans want things to change at the UN. And so the headline reads, UN General Assembly, what African leaders want. Leaders from across Africa has renewed their cause for a ceasefire in Gaza and the release of Israeli

hostages held by Hamas. They also demand a permanent African representation on the UN Security Council. And this year theme at the UN General Assembly sounded more than ambitious. It's titled, Leaving No One Behind, Acting Together for the Advancement of Peace, Sustainable Development, and Human Dignity for Present and Future Generations. I would have to ask you, what's your takeaway, considering you

must have heard some, if not all of them, all 11 hours of the speeches. So I'll start with the sister first. What's your major takeaway?

Milton Allimadi (12:26.839)
You

Aya Fubara Eneli (12:32.599)
Yes, some people watch TV shows and I have no problems with that. But I was certainly watching and listening to quite a number of the speakers, the leaders who spoke at the UN General Assembly. He's not African, but I have to highlight him because he ended up then getting his visa revoked and kicked out of the country. Petro from...

Adesoji Iginla (12:56.966)
Kita.

Milton Allimadi (12:59.584)
Right, yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli (13:02.393)
President Pedro from Colombia, you know, spoke truth to power. He meant to know where it did all in addressing the idiocy of Donald Trump and the path that the United Nations, sorry, the United States is following. He raised the issue of young people from Colombia being blown up, murdered at sea.

Adesoji Iginla (13:05.126)
Gustafo Petro.

Milton Allimadi (13:05.172)
I love big guns.

Aya Fubara Eneli (13:32.183)
with no proof that they had committed any crimes, no jury, no trial, no nothing, just murdered. He talked about the fact that the real drug dealers live in Miami and in New York and in all of these places and are cuddled by the United States. And he talked about the interference of the United States, Donald Trump in particular, in the affairs of Columbia.

Milton Allimadi (13:47.807)
Yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli (13:58.401)
And he really made a point since there's so much anti-immigration talk that there needs to be a concern about what is driving immigration and that it's poverty. A lot of this poverty is driven by the policies of nations, the policies of the United Nations, the fact that the United Nations is largely ineffective.

Adesoji Iginla (14:08.517)
Mmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (14:25.369)
but also the IMF the World Bank and And of course climate change, so I just wanted to highlight him he later on spoke at an event in New York and based on that

the absolutely spineless, I wouldn't even call him a human being. I don't know what he is. I never want to really disparage people, but when you do not act like you are humane, I have to question. Marco Rubio immediately put to use the power of the United States and had him revoke his visa, he had to leave. The same way they prevented a representative from Palestine to come to the country anyway.

to speak at the UN National Assembly, which, a General Assembly, which raises the issue of how is this a United Nations when a host nation can unilaterally decide who can come in and therefore have access to power to speak all of that. Now getting back to the African leaders, you know, I...

often disparage the AU because they are, we know, funded by outsiders who do not have our best interests. But I was pleasantly surprised to see all of the African leaders I listened to on script in terms of Ghanaian's president talked about Africa is the future. Look at the figures and look at where the growth is and look at where who's going to have the youngest population not to talk about the

Mineral resources that we have he said it the first time nobody really responded And so he said it he said i'm saying it again for those in the back and then there was applause When he said africa is the future of the future is africa is how put it But they're all calling for Based on just sheer numbers that africa should be represented on the un united nations security council

Adesoji Iginla (16:30.406)
Mm-hmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (16:30.883)
For those of you who don't know, there are five permanent members of the Security Council and there 14 non-permanent members. And the five have veto power, which means at any point in time, one of them can just say, now, we don't care if all the other countries of the world voted a certain way. We can unilaterally say no. And there is no provision to override such veto. So they're asking for Africans and even that term asking. Anytime you have to beg these people

for something. But anyway, they're asking for African nations to have at least two representatives on the Security Council. They're asking for reform. Reset is how many of them put it, where the rules, the veto power rules are changed. They are asking for the change in how

Adesoji Iginla (17:17.136)
Mm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (17:21.797)
money's are divvied up, if you will, and the rubrics that is used because right now it really penalizes countries in, quote unquote, the global south. And one of the leaders talked about the fact that looking at a certain part of money, like 62 % went to the wealthiest countries. And then all the other middle and lower income countries shared 38%, which makes ridiculous sense. Of course, Myanmar,

Motley as we have come to expect her to do brought all the smoke all the facts all the fire she was absolutely Amazing in how even told even told she was but how she just really hit on all the major points that needed to be addressed And so yes what we're hearing from African leaders is we are no longer going to

be marginalized and they talked about how the structure of the UN today still largely reflects what the world looked like in 1945 and has not moved on with the times. And some of them even said, hey, just like there was a League of Nations before the United Nations, but it became obsolete. If the United Nations does not make some very specific changes right now,

United Nations itself would be obsolete. And of course the theme was better together. And so anyone who hasn't watched the speeches, we are global citizens, you should go and pay attention because these leaders are also sounding the alarm on climate change and the fact that we only have a small window to react properly.

And of course, the idiot in chief in the White House was the only leader there who was questioning science, who was just going to pull stuff out of his behind.

Aya Fubara Eneli (19:28.217)
and completely disregard all the science that exists. He made a idiot of himself and the United States on that stage. And some people were, you know, very boldly called him out on it. Now countries like Cambodia came in and kissed his butt and announced that they had nominated him for the Nobel Prize. That's the other thing. Comrade Alamadi, he was making a case for, well, I don't really need the prize, but you know, I should get the prize.

and all of that. mean, absolutely horrendous performance, but yeah, let me pass it over to our comrade.

Adesoji Iginla (20:00.738)
Grovlin.

Milton Allimadi (20:05.725)
Okay. All right. So what I liked the most was the momentum that is now building up against the genocide. You know, Palestinian people. And so, you know, we have to commend South Africa for really getting the ball rolling with this lawsuit at the world court, International Court of Justice, because then that built up momentum for the International Criminal Court to take action.

And then that built up momentum for all these countries start talking about wanting to recognize the state of Palestine. And ultimately that's what many of them did. And I like the fact that the guy as of now Netanyahu really led his country to become global pariah. I like the fact that all those leaders walked out when he came to speak.

I like the fact that you see protests in many countries now, including in Italy, massive protests, because at the end of the day, human beings care about other human beings, whether they're non-Europeans, know, children are children. And that is now resonating. I like the fact that Ramaphosa was very strong in denouncing Israel using the genocide word.

consistently and very boldly. So to me, that was perhaps one of the greatest achievements of this particular session. The momentum is not going back. When you have the president of Colombia joining people outside, right, out of the UN to speak like that, and that resonates really globally, you can say, okay, the US has my back. The US has my back.

Aya Fubara Eneli (21:36.333)
Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (21:59.204)
Mm. Yeah.

Milton Allimadi (22:03.878)
Number one, it does not mean the people in the United States agree with what the US is doing, having your back with a blanket check. You know, we see people like, you know, Tucker Carlson, people like Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene now openly breaking away from that. So we are going to see changes, you know, whether Netanyahu likes it or not, and whether Trump likes it or not. Now, in terms of the

Adesoji Iginla (22:25.478)
Hmm.

Milton Allimadi (22:33.095)
the veto thing. I actually was listening to the Norwegian president, and I prefer his proposal, actually, at the end of the day. He said, no country should have veto power. And then he talked about it. I said, wow, that is actually what the UN was set up to be, so that the majority opinion of the global countries could prevail. So now you have to persuade by making the best argument.

Adesoji Iginla (22:42.969)
Okay.

Aya Fubara Eneli (22:45.773)
Yeah. Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (22:50.222)
Afford exactly.

Aya Fubara Eneli (22:50.855)
Exactly.

Milton Allimadi (23:01.614)
and let people vote in the General Assembly. And that's it. So because now you give Africa one or two vetoes, what is that going to accomplish? They're certainly not going to push for something that the US cannot veto, you see? So it would be like a status symbol. yeah, now we also have the Security Council with permanent votes. But if you really want the UN to become effective,

Adesoji Iginla (23:11.75)
I was just going to...

Adesoji Iginla (23:18.374)
Mmm.

Milton Allimadi (23:31.717)
as people once envisioned that it might, then let the General Assembly prevail. Let even the smallest countries, by virtue of having that vote, just like the small states in this country, right? Every state, you know, you get senators not saying, oh, this state is too small. You don't deserve to have, you know, a seat in the Senate. So the UN, I think, should go back. And I hope that proposal

gain some momentum. Of course, I think the countries with the permanent seats would rather prefer to give Africa two seats than to say, nobody should have veto power, you know. Otherwise, that would be the best solution.

Adesoji Iginla (24:13.53)
Hmm.

For me, that's...

Aya Fubara Eneli (24:18.009)
I do want to say that I appreciated the fact that although many of the speakers focused on the genocide in Gaza, quite a few of them also brought up the Sudan and brought up the Congo as well. So they were not ready in raising those issues. Of course, Ukraine war was something that was raised and Mia Motley in the past has talked about how

Milton Allimadi (24:32.344)
Yes, yes, yes. Thank you for bringing that up. You're correct.

Adesoji Iginla (24:34.277)
Yeah.

Milton Allimadi (24:39.351)
Thank you for bringing it up.

Aya Fubara Eneli (24:46.519)
that war is draining resources that could be used to advance development and address climate change. So I think our speakers, the Grenada leader who spoke so eloquently, he's a very young man, spoke very eloquently about education and tying it to opportunity.

And he talked about some kids barely having access to education or being in buildings that are run down or being bombed, referring to Gaza as well. And then other kids are in schools with state of the art education and AI and all of that, and just the inequities that that presents. so really worth listening to. Some of the countries have some really great leaders who are thinking through things like

people who have studied and have an understanding. And then we have the absolute bumbling piece of, I'm sorry, SHIT that was elected president of this country. Actually, you know, there is a Britain, I know this is not one of the things that you had on your list, but I have to, if you permit me, I don't have to, but if you permit me, I have to read a scorching, I guess, I don't know you would call it an editorial.

Adesoji Iginla (25:45.99)
you

Adesoji Iginla (26:03.002)
gone.

Aya Fubara Eneli (26:09.719)
that was posted about Trump, if I can find it quickly here. Yes, yes, let me just read this. I, know, the British absolutely do have a way with words and this was crazy. So this is by Oliver Kornetsky and it was published in August 18, 2025. And he said, behold, the festering carcass of American rot shoved into an ill-fitting suit.

The sleaze of a con man, the cowardice of a draft dodger, the gluttony of a parasite, the racism of a clansman, the sexism of a back alley creep, the ignorance of a barstool drunk, and the greed of a hedge fund ghoul. All spray painted orange and paraded like a prize hog at a county fair. Not a president, not even a man.

Just the diseased distillation of everything this country swears it isn't, but has always been. Arrogance dressed up as exceptionalism, stupidity passed off as common sense, cruelty sold as toughness, greed exalted as ambition, and corruption worshiped like gospel. It is America's shadow made flesh, a rotten pumpkin idol.

proving that when a nation kneels before money, power, and spite, it doesn't just lose its soul. It S-H-I-T-S out this bloated obscenity and calls it a leader. I don't know that I have read a more scathing and a more accurate description of the felon in chief. Well done, Oliver Kornetsky.

Adesoji Iginla (27:44.372)
What?

Adesoji Iginla (27:54.97)
That's from the land of Shakespeare. Of course, yeah. I mean, the same can be said for some people in, mean, Britain too has its own share of those kind of rotting carcasses that are walking around prancing and considering themselves leaders. Nigel Farage being one of them. For just to...

Aya Fubara Eneli (28:18.553)
Your sister, Kimmy, being one of them, isn't she from your area?

Adesoji Iginla (28:21.792)
Yeah, mean, Kemi is an excuse for a leader. I might not to say I have to give, of all the leaders that spoke, and it pains me to say this, but I have to give him his flowers. Cyril Ramaphosa touched on all the ills. He spoke about Gaza and the reason why South Africa had to bring the case.

Milton Allimadi (28:41.553)
Yeah, he did.

Adesoji Iginla (28:49.306)
He's talked about the impunity that followed the October 7 events. He talked about trade being used as a weapon. Yeah. So he also talked about environmental pledges that the so-called advanced North are not living up to and how it impacts the people in the global South. He then talked about the security reforms.

And just when I thought he was done, he then mentioned Western Sahara. And I'm like, wow. Because for some people that don't know, Western Sahara, I mean, let's say to a lesser degree, is Africa's Gaza. Because we're talking about settler colonialism here. This is the attempt at wiping out a people by Morocco again.

Milton Allimadi (29:23.485)
All

Adesoji Iginla (29:47.55)
sanctioned by the United States. That yes, you want that land, you can go have it. And France, yeah, you could go have it. So the fact that Cyril Ramaphosa was able to touch on all, because when I had Western Sahara like, whoa, whoa, whoa, rewind, what did you just say? And he, you know, he laid it all out there. And I'm like, yes. And then Mia Motley, when she was finishing her speech, she said something.

Milton Allimadi (29:53.487)
and France and France.

Adesoji Iginla (30:17.126)
She said, and I want to quote her words exactly, she said, if a six-year-old can summon the whale to push against their worst fears. And she was talking about Rajab Hind, the six-year-old girl that was trapped in the car that the Israelis launched 435 bullets into. But she could still make that call that she was here and that the world should not forget her.

What is our excuse?

Aya Fubara Eneli (30:49.506)
she was carrying her younger sibling.

Adesoji Iginla (30:52.054)
Yes, what is our excuse? And we just.

Milton Allimadi (30:56.107)
That's powerful. mean, you know, I'm getting chills just listening to you. We tell it again. That's very powerful.

Adesoji Iginla (31:01.518)
You know, so it's I mean, when she said it, I was like, Whoa, that just sounds but then again, they the I mean, we we have to give all of them the flowers but I have

Aya Fubara Eneli (31:13.241)
But here's my little issue, though. Absolutely proud of them. Listen to Shatima from Nigeria, all of that. And then I said, so African leaders, why are you not addressing your internal issues with the same brilliance and gusto?

Adesoji Iginla (31:16.731)
Mm.

Milton Allimadi (31:33.518)
Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (31:33.836)
Mmm. Gostu.

Aya Fubara Eneli (31:39.307)
and historical understanding as you have shown on this stage. Why? I mean, we can look to the UN and because it's a global, it's a world where everything impacts everybody, but can we also strengthen what and who we are within the continent? I mean, something as basic as no more visas.

Milton Allimadi (31:44.154)
Because many of them are difficult.

Adesoji Iginla (31:44.23)
Hmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (32:05.793)
That we can travel in and out and we can trade building trade routes amongst ourselves You don't need an outsider to help you make that decision You don't need the un for that. And so I I applauded their their courage and Their understanding of the issues and then I said, okay So what's stopping you? From showing up differently in your own area ramaphosa, you know how much money you've made

Adesoji Iginla (32:34.981)
Mmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (32:37.441)
in South Africa, how are you ensuring an infrastructure for the young people? So I would just say to the African leaders, kudos, now get home and get to work.

Milton Allimadi (32:52.748)
So I think we should separate them and thank what they said. No, I'm endorsing what you're saying, but I'm saying that we should say it that they said the right thing on behalf of our countries. But as individuals, they have failed to deliver domestically. And while I praise them for their conduct by UN, I have no problem advocating for their removal also back in Africa.

Aya Fubara Eneli (33:06.53)
Yes.

Adesoji Iginla (33:10.63)
Mmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (33:21.113)
you

Milton Allimadi (33:23.394)
there's absolutely no contradiction at all, because they were not speaking as individuals in any case. They were speaking on behalf of the countries. So that's a South African position, well and good. But of course, know, Barack Obama first at least is in a country that still respects the Constitution and the term limits. So, you know, but the others, where they're still, you know, contesting for power, shredding the Constitution, behaving pretty much

Adesoji Iginla (33:29.904)
Mm. Okay.

Aya Fubara Eneli (33:32.163)
Yeah.

Milton Allimadi (33:52.617)
like the president of the United States. And then in terms of Ramaphosa, I also totally agree, but I would encourage him to stop using the term Western Sahara. Just like South Africa used to refer to Namibia, Southwest Africa, with the South African imposed colonial name. They call themselves Saharawi, Democratic Republic. So if you're embracing them,

Adesoji Iginla (33:56.592)
Mm-mm.

Adesoji Iginla (34:19.362)
We We Republic.

Aya Fubara Eneli (34:21.313)
Yes.

Milton Allimadi (34:22.711)
Call them, so that would be the only correction. Call them what they call themselves.

Adesoji Iginla (34:28.742)
So it's.

Aya Fubara Eneli (34:30.903)
And some of your listeners may remember we covered this issue a couple of sessions ago maybe. think when we're talking about the, it definitely about Morocco and the dam and yeah, the imposition of the dam.

Milton Allimadi (34:41.683)
Yes, yes, yes, yes, the same issue. And then finally, of course, this is what it will take only the type of the leaders that they have in the Alliance of South Health States to do something like this. They must officially leverage their resources. If they do that, by the next General Assembly, they would get a permanent seat on the Security Council.

Adesoji Iginla (34:41.796)
Yeah, and the football shirts. Yeah, and the football shirts. Yeah.

Yep. So.

Milton Allimadi (35:09.813)
Even though now, after listening to the Norwegian, I'm no longer a big fan of that. But if they really want it, they should leverage their resources. They should say every African country that has cobalt, that has uranium, that has coal time, that has the rare earth minerals that they want, we will not make it available to you unless you commit.

Adesoji Iginla (35:12.678)
I'm gonna be done, yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (35:17.552)
Hmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (35:20.099)
So awesome.

Adesoji Iginla (35:28.272)
Gold?

Milton Allimadi (35:39.944)
that at the next General Assembly, the 81th session, we're going to have the two permanent seats that we're talking. Otherwise, you're going to be talking like that for a very long time.

Adesoji Iginla (35:50.182)
Hmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (35:50.207)
because we have been making this call for a very long time. So I do not have to ask you this comrade Milton. So did you listen to the Ugandan representative? Because I didn't.

Milton Allimadi (35:55.921)
Yes.

Milton Allimadi (36:02.323)
No, I did not. think they sent the prime minister, but I did not. But I don't think I miss much. No, honestly, because Uganda, sadly, not only because the guy has been there for 40 years, the guy has allowed many generations of Ugandan potential leaders to emerge.

Adesoji Iginla (36:02.492)
Save.

Adesoji Iginla (36:16.825)
you

Milton Allimadi (36:32.339)
And that is the worst thing, by suppressing. We never know what might have transpired in the last 40 years. That's number two. But he is the ultimate hypocrite. Remember a few shows ago I said what he was saying about, I never blamed Europeans for colonizing Africa. If you're stupid, you should be taking a slave and all that. All right. So remember a couple of shows ago we discussed the Ugandan, I think she's now even the whole president.

Adesoji Iginla (36:37.936)
have been. Yeah.

Milton Allimadi (37:01.618)
of the International Court of Justice, the one who was saying, you know, God is telling her to do this for Israel and all that stuff, right? Remember, she was also one, I think, maybe the only one, or maybe the only one who voted against humanitarian aid, not voting against the lawsuit filed by South Africa. Even Israel's

Aya Fubara Eneli (37:06.041)
No, the other side.

Yeah, yeah.

Milton Allimadi (37:29.905)
Israel did not have a representative, but Israel had an advocate, a lawyer who was advocating Israel's interest in the proceedings. Even that advocate was advocating and supporting humanitarian aid at that time for Gaza, but the Ugandan voted against it. And she's not acting independently. So even though, as I explained, the Ugandan government might say, oh, you know, we don't understand why...

Adesoji Iginla (37:41.734)
thinking about.

Milton Allimadi (37:58.447)
You know, she doesn't represent us. She's a part of the UN now, so we don't control her. But of course they control her because all they have to do is have a third person come in say, you know, we know your relatives live here and there. We know the young ones go to this school and that's all they need to do. Otherwise, a rational human being would not be behaving the way she did. And you can't get all the way to that level to become a judge without being a rational human being.

Adesoji Iginla (38:16.166)
Hmm.

Milton Allimadi (38:28.913)
So even though I have no direct evidence, know, circumstantially, I'm willing to believe, you know, this is what's going on. Yeah. So the prime minister, I think her mandate would be say something, and I'm going to go back and listen to it and then maybe confirming it next week, say something that is appealing to the man in the White House. Because Uganda has elections in January, and that's why they wanted to take Abrego.

Adesoji Iginla (38:36.25)
That's the position. OK.

Aya Fubara Eneli (38:51.713)
Mm. Mm.

Milton Allimadi (38:59.598)
Because then after he steals the election, if the US would say, hey, hey, he would say, wait, I'm doing you guys a favor. Send more, send more of the people you're expelling. I'll take them. So that card didn't work out. We took that off the table by kept exposing the human rights abuses. They said, OK, we're not sending a break with that. So now he's trying to find another way to cement that neocolonial connection with the US.

Adesoji Iginla (39:28.196)
me. So I mean, you sort of jumped the gun with regards to the story. So I might as well go for it. And it's that a writer says, you can down pop star Bobby Wine Claire to challenge again, aging in combat again. And he goes on and it says, you can then opposition leader is turning off to run against your man. So

I mean, you read the story, what is your take on it?

Milton Allimadi (40:01.159)
So I'll just give two quick points and then we can go to the sister, see her take on it. At one point, Reuters has a Ugandan journalist who writes most of their stories. Reuters, of course, you can't be openly biased in favor of Museveni. So their stories always sound like, okay, okay.

that sort of hitting him, exposing what's going on. But in every one of his, and his name is Rodney, I forget his last name. In every one of his stories, he would always have a reference to, and we serve and it remains popular in the urban areas. And you know, our cities are really packed with population. And so people say, why is that important? That's important to make it plausible

Adesoji Iginla (40:52.749)
Correct.

Milton Allimadi (40:58.926)
that he might win elections, you see? So in every article he writes about Moussaibene, he always has that sentence. And you know, as somebody who critiques, you know, Western media, you know, after a while, you develop the eye to pick up things quickly. And how did I know that he would copy and paste a verbatim? Because he did it in three articles and forgot to correct a spelling of one word.

Adesoji Iginla (41:01.296)
Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (41:19.163)
Mm.

Milton Allimadi (41:28.736)
So the same word was spelled in three different articles spread over more than a year period, right? So I tweeted about that and I pointed that out and I copied it to his editor. His editor is based in South Africa, guy I met also many years ago. I said, is not a random sentence. This is regime propaganda to rationalize election theft. They've done it in the past and they're going to do it again in the future.

Adesoji Iginla (41:36.176)
Wow.

Adesoji Iginla (41:57.798)
Mmm.

Milton Allimadi (41:58.763)
So now I notice this article says by Reuters, it doesn't have Rodney's name. So okay, maybe now either Rodney is trying to hide himself or they're trying to hide him in the background. So I read this article very carefully. And first of all, the headline, pop star, right? You know, he's just a pop star anyway, right? Number one, and nobody knows people will not catch that, right?

Adesoji Iginla (42:14.211)
Okay.

Aya Fubara Eneli (42:20.099)
Thank you. Thank you.

Adesoji Iginla (42:20.579)
Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (42:24.439)
You

Milton Allimadi (42:29.067)
And then now instead of saying Museveni is popular in the open areas, so I noticed they removed that now, it doesn't fit this article, but now they say Bobby Wine is popular in the ghettos where he grew up.

Adesoji Iginla (42:29.072)
Yep.

Aya Fubara Eneli (42:29.337)
Mm-hmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (42:44.633)
Is it ghetto king?

Milton Allimadi (42:48.427)
So now they're saying, his support is confined to the ghettos. So he ended up losing to Persephone. Don't be shocked, right? So they flipped the propaganda in a very clever way. And obviously, can only be picked this out by somebody who has followed them very carefully and consistently. And of course, I'm going to write to them about this and tweet about it later on. So thank you for focusing on this article. And then one final point, one final point.

Adesoji Iginla (42:53.446)
We got this, yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (43:05.445)
Mm-hmm.

Milton Allimadi (43:17.001)
They say, Mujozi, the dictator's son, Mugiganda is considering him the vice dictator, said he tweeted a few months ago and boasted of having an opposition leader in his basement and even threatened to harm him. No, shame on you, Reuters, shame on you. He tweeted boasting that I've tortured him and posted a photo of him bloodied and being tortured.

Adesoji Iginla (43:20.826)
on it.

Adesoji Iginla (43:29.838)
in his basement. Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (43:36.717)
It's It actually happened.

Milton Allimadi (43:45.736)
So Reuters, how dare you? You should be very much ashamed. And you know, if you're not watching this video, I'm going to make sure that I send you the link to Adesuji's program after this show. That's outrageous. Think about that. Reuters stories, previous stories, carried articles about Mujozi boasting that he tortured this guy. And in this particular article, it says he even threatened that he might harm him. So even though...

Adesoji Iginla (43:59.504)
Yeah, yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (44:06.342)
that he did it. Yeah.

You're saying.

Milton Allimadi (44:14.652)
Rodney's name is not in this article. Rodney may not have written it. Rodney played a role, I believe at least, in the construction of this article. And I wasn't aware of it until you brought this article up. So thank you for that, comrade.

Adesoji Iginla (44:30.896)
You're welcome, you're welcome, you're welcome. Sister?

Aya Fubara Eneli (44:33.687)
Yeah, I absolutely agree with all the points that you made. So in dismissing him as a pop star, you don't talk about the fact that he was a member of parliament for four years. You don't talk about the fact that he was actually the main opponent in the last presidential election. You don't focus on the shortcomings of Museveni or that his son is the head of this military arm that is

Milton Allimadi (44:40.99)
Yep.

Milton Allimadi (44:45.514)
Thank you.

Adesoji Iginla (44:52.869)
rigged.

Aya Fubara Eneli (45:02.197)
unleashed and and you know attacking yes

Milton Allimadi (45:03.397)
Yeah, actually promoted him, promoted him to be commander of the entire army now.

Aya Fubara Eneli (45:10.293)
Okay So so yeah, you're right. You have to read in between the lines to say what is not being said or what is being normalized What is it? know? Yeah, but but basically the headline itself is just yeah dismiss this guy He's a he's nobody But of course, there's another guy who I guess he has not been cleared yet to run Mubarak Mugna gawa or Mugna gah Let me look at it again Mugna gwa

Milton Allimadi (45:18.545)
Right.

Milton Allimadi (45:24.988)
Yep.

Adesoji Iginla (45:25.446)
It's just a pop star, yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli (45:40.427)
And he is promising that if he becomes elected as president of Uganda, he's going to replace Swahili with French because this is how it should be. But then even as I was reading that article, I was just thinking about, excuse me, the elitism of the classism and the issues of class within the African society because by pitching it as the ghetto king,

Adesoji Iginla (45:49.914)
Hmm.

Milton Allimadi (45:51.431)
Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (46:08.581)
YouTube, but was, yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli (46:09.919)
versus those of us who are more refined, you see this class conflict as well. And elections unfortunately need money to run. And so if you kind of dog whistle to the elites, hey, this one is not one of you. You may dance to his music, but leave it at that. Just enjoy his music. But if he comes into power,

Adesoji Iginla (46:12.88)
City to us. Yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli (46:37.389)
he might change your level of comfort. So, you know, stay with this guy who wants to be president into what, his fifth decade, something of that nature. So we got, and I hope that when the AU comes together, that just as we were blasting the United Nations, that African leaders are having these conversations.

Milton Allimadi (46:48.855)
Right.

Aya Fubara Eneli (47:04.761)
behind closed doors with each other that we need to change how we show up.

Adesoji Iginla (47:09.818)
He, I mean,

Milton Allimadi (47:10.404)
Yeah, no, they need to because Cameroon has won on the 12th and they're going to basically endorse this what 92 year old for another term. Ivory Coast has won later also in October. Qatar 83 year old, you know, and then of course, Moussa Beny has his scheduled election in January. So all these three and all of them and he's also 82 years old.

Adesoji Iginla (47:24.933)
See

Milton Allimadi (47:40.734)
So it's a major problem. And I hope that people take the model of Kenya. I think Kenya, you know, with whatever shortcomings, the young people have really shown the formula for galvanizing over issues, the way they succeeded with the attempted tax hike and forced the government to roll that back, mobilizing on social media.

So I hope that the young people in more African countries, including Uganda, can take that model as well.

Adesoji Iginla (48:13.126)
And I also want to leave our audience with the fact that Musafeni wrote a book in 1992 where he laid out the problem with Africa. And he said, and I quote, the problem with

Milton Allimadi (48:19.381)
Yes. Yep. No, no. Tell people the title of the book.

Adesoji Iginla (48:28.312)
the title of the problem is Africa's problems and something else. It was Africans problems. So each app.

Milton Allimadi (48:34.146)
The title is, What is Africa's Problem?

Adesoji Iginla (48:37.914)
What is Africa's problem? Chapter two is Africa, leadership. The first line of that chapter is, the problem with Africa is that its leaders stay too long in power.

Milton Allimadi (48:45.547)
Yep.

Milton Allimadi (48:54.58)
Yep, think about that.

Aya Fubara Eneli (48:56.025)
So you're saying Reuters could have led with that line.

Milton Allimadi (48:59.936)
or they never will. Not if Rodney is contributing to.

Adesoji Iginla (49:02.32)
You

Aya Fubara Eneli (49:05.177)
Well, I guess it depends on what your definition of too long is. know, 40 years.

Milton Allimadi (49:10.676)
Okay, I'm glad you said that sister because then later on he started being challenged everywhere he went they would bring up that book. You know what he's on to say? He said, I meant to say too long without being elected.

Adesoji Iginla (49:14.054)
You

Adesoji Iginla (49:18.096)
Mm, yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli (49:18.208)
Uh-huh.

Adesoji Iginla (49:25.337)
You

Milton Allimadi (49:29.012)
I kid you not. Yeah, look at that.

Adesoji Iginla (49:32.87)
I mean, it is fascinating. When I discovered that book, I'm like, Yeah, you know, so, well, that's one to look out for. So the election is when again, for our listeners.

Milton Allimadi (49:34.466)
That guy, he's something else.

Milton Allimadi (49:46.134)
I think it's the 12th of January.

Adesoji Iginla (49:50.32)
to the 12th of January. okay. 12th of January.

Milton Allimadi (49:55.071)
I think Cameroon is also either 12th or 16th of October. I think Côte d'Ivoire around the 24th or something that October.

Adesoji Iginla (50:05.69)
Yeah, 24th of October is Kuduvaifana mistaken. Yeah. So you've got octogenarians and centurions running to be presidents. Ooh, Africans. So yeah, part of the fallout of the OAU conference was the issue of reparations.

Milton Allimadi (50:18.258)
Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (50:33.19)
And for that story, we go to...

The Daily Telegraph, which is a British newspaper. It's titled, The Demand for Reparations by African Nation is a Shameless Attack on the Truth. And it's written by a author, Nigel Biggar. He's just released a book. I will even ask you to go read that book. It's just nonsense.

There was a time when the better off wanted status by buying mansions and driving fancy cars and wearing top hats. Today privilege is commonly assumed to be shameful. Western elites is now prefer to sports superior moral status by challenge by championing fashionable in inverted commerce progressive causes. These are the luxury beliefs because they cost the elite nothing while costs others a lot. One such is that of decolonization.

And it then goes on, but here's the key part. Now, however, decolonization threatens to become very expensive indeed for exploiting the Western's performative orgy of self-flagellation. The African Union has joined the Caribbean community, CARICOM, in demanding reparations from Britain for its colonial crimes. CARICOM has already submitted its bill of £18 trillion. When...

Let me get your take because... okay. I also be reminded that the good comrade wants to leave on the hour. So if he does, we'll continue.

Aya Fubara Eneli (52:07.865)
Please leave the article up.

Aya Fubara Eneli (52:16.569)
Then let him go first on this one, because wow.

Adesoji Iginla (52:21.958)
Okay, let me bring you back up.

Milton Allimadi (52:24.539)
Okay, all right, now this one is an easy one. And I'm glad, no, he's just regurgitating, regurgitating in the same column that I forget her name, unfortunately, paralyzed Don Levin with when he was still at CNN. You know, I remember watching that interview and she said, you know, Don was pushing her on the whole issue of reparations. You know, the, you know, the justness.

Adesoji Iginla (52:34.383)
Okay.

Adesoji Iginla (52:41.253)
Mmm.

Milton Allimadi (52:54.017)
of reparations, whether it's in the United States and Britain for its colonial crimes, know, and pre-colonial crimes. And he said, were you aware that it was actually the British fleet that was stopping the slave ships, intercepting them and freeing people and taking them to places like Sierra Leone? Did you know that? Of course, Lemon did know no sufficient history. So it was paralyzed and ended up being,

Adesoji Iginla (52:54.628)
Yeah. Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (53:02.277)
Mm-hmm.

Milton Allimadi (53:23.48)
And then after that, she dominated the conversation.

Adesoji Iginla (53:24.72)
we've got a window.

Aya Fubara Eneli (53:26.477)
Cut, cut!

Just for those listening who are ever in that situation Just quote Malcolm X the fact that you put a knife in my back six inches and then you pull it out three I'm supposed to clap for you and

Milton Allimadi (53:47.976)
But even it's even better than that. It's even better than that. I wish Don Dorman had read Eric Williams book, Capitalism and Slavery. The British were doing that on behalf of British interests because they had gone through plantation slavery. They used the wealth created by the enslaved Africans.

Adesoji Iginla (53:52.026)
Hmm. Gone.

Aya Fubara Eneli (53:56.601)
Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (53:57.124)
Mmm!

Aya Fubara Eneli (54:06.668)
Exactly.

Adesoji Iginla (54:10.554)
Yep, yep, yep.

Milton Allimadi (54:15.902)
on the sugar plantations, the tobacco plantations, to build so much capital that they came up with a steam engine, right? They came up with manufacturing production. So now the industrial capitalists were the ones who are against the plantation owners and saying, wait a minute, we don't want you enslaving these Africans on your plantations. That's very selfish. We want cheap labor in our factories.

Aya Fubara Eneli (54:16.195)
Mm-hmm.

Milton Allimadi (54:45.836)
We want to pay them wages and then they can use the wages to buy our manufacturers. And that's why they send their ships to stop slavery so that they could escalate.

Adesoji Iginla (54:55.216)
Yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli (54:56.909)
You said it wasn't altruistic. Is that your argument?

Milton Allimadi (55:00.822)
And sadly, Don Lemon had not read this book. So yes, these names like William Lloyd Garrison in the United States, like Wilberforce in Britain and all that, yes, they were important, but they were not the decisive factor. It was the industrial capitalist that said, no, no more slavery. You're cutting into our exponentially much higher profits than we're making from this type of production.

So obviously, this is what's his name.

Aya Fubara Eneli (55:34.121)
So wait a second are you arguing that the Using the cute term the annexation of Lagos was just because they were trying to protect the people of Lagos from Slavery that was the sole purpose it was

Milton Allimadi (55:47.795)
That's what Nigel is saying. That's what Nigel is saying, right? Nigel, in fact, Nigel went further and said colonialism, number one, was to stop slavery. And then he's implying to civilize the Africans, right? So, I mean, obviously they wanted the people of Lagos also to become producers of cheap labor and consumers of their manufacture, which is exactly what happened.

Adesoji Iginla (56:02.469)
if you can.

Aya Fubara Eneli (56:03.427)
course.

Milton Allimadi (56:15.997)
And here's the strong, just two more points quickly.

Milton Allimadi (56:20.936)
If you are so kind to these Africans, because you can't sleep because of their suffering as enslaved human beings, does it make sense that you would now move from enslaving them to colonizing them, bringing a new type of slavery? Does that make sense? Is there any consistent there? Is it even rational? Or is Nigel being completely irrational? Of course he is. And then the final point,

He's complaining that these people are asking for reparations without mentioning the fact that the enslavers were compensated. And if you put it in US dollars, today would be close to four trillion US dollars. So in fact, these guys might be underestimating what they're owed, you see?

Aya Fubara Eneli (56:56.163)
They got reparations.

Aya Fubara Eneli (57:00.493)
Yes.

Aya Fubara Eneli (57:13.753)
payment was as recently as 10 years ago, wasn't it? Wasn't it? Yeah.

Milton Allimadi (57:16.529)
Absolutely. So this is another article that I also thank you for bringing up because obviously I'm going to respond to Nigel and if his publication doesn't publish it, it's fine. I'll publish it on Black Star, you know.

Adesoji Iginla (57:17.146)
Yep.

Aya Fubara Eneli (57:32.451)
Brother, you respond, please make sure you send that to us so we can help get it out to other areas as well.

Milton Allimadi (57:37.725)
Yeah, absolutely. It's completely preposterous. But if you don't know, obviously, the background and the facts, then it sounds like, yeah, he's right.

Adesoji Iginla (57:39.984)
Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (57:48.72)
Yeah, I mean, in.

Aya Fubara Eneli (57:51.443)
say that for our readers and this is across the board now with a lot of what we're reading and even just the statements being made by people is that there's a total projection happening. It's almost like whatever they're saying just understand that that is what whatever they're saying about you is what is really the truth about them. So if you go back to that article in that first go back to the article that first paragraph

Adesoji Iginla (58:11.564)
is what they feel about them. Yeah.

Milton Allimadi (58:15.059)
Yeah, yes, thank you. Okay, very good.

No, very good. I like that. Sister, that really captures the explanation.

Aya Fubara Eneli (58:24.127)
No, it's like when they say you're a thief. No, no, no, no, you know, you're the thief that's why you're trying to Subtifude it and create some confusion people are like well, maybe did she? See if you can pull up that article again that very first paragraph

Milton Allimadi (58:32.412)
Yeah. No, she's right. That is the terms to explain it.

Adesoji Iginla (58:38.852)
OK, one second. Yeah, one second. Let me go. The demand for reparation. OK.

Aya Fubara Eneli (58:47.353)
He tells us exactly what he's about. no, so it's the part that you didn't actually highlight. He says, yeah, which defends Britain's 400 years of colonial endeavor. simple, no, no, no. So it was just an endeavor playing around with an entire continent.

Adesoji Iginla (58:54.756)
which defames

Milton Allimadi (58:57.79)
sorry.

Adesoji Iginla (59:00.482)
as as a simple as a simple

Milton Allimadi (59:02.612)
you

Adesoji Iginla (59:10.648)
as a simple, as a simple lithium.

Aya Fubara Eneli (59:12.351)
Now, of course, of course, he's separating this from also what they did in India or in the Caribbean that really shows you all together with it. But it's like he's just calling it an endeavor because no humans were involved. And he says, that we're trying to defame it as a simple litany of racism, exploitation and oppression.

Adesoji Iginla (59:17.509)
Yeah?

Adesoji Iginla (59:28.474)
Mmm.

Adesoji Iginla (59:33.734)
of racism expertise.

Milton Allimadi (59:35.398)
Yeah, yeah. So why are they not suing for defamation then? It's amazing.

Aya Fubara Eneli (59:40.707)
Thank you. No, no, no, you are actually guilty of all of those things.

Milton Allimadi (59:46.47)
Right, right. Now this is a great article, so thank you for bringing that up.

Adesoji Iginla (59:50.758)
So like the good comrades said, to counter that article, please read

Aya Fubara Eneli (59:57.197)
by the way, people should also look at when you're talking about that article. And you might even want to look at this one because they've continued this system. And that's what they were talking about the at the UN general assembly. They've continued this world management where they've set it up already where they will always win. And you will always be the ones that are exploited and extract. So it's called.

Adesoji Iginla (01:00:00.158)
Yes.

Milton Allimadi (01:00:00.755)
Yep.

Adesoji Iginla (01:00:05.446)
What you to say?

Milton Allimadi (01:00:10.877)
Yes.

Milton Allimadi (01:00:14.258)
Yes.

Milton Allimadi (01:00:17.777)
Yes, in a different way. Right.

Adesoji Iginla (01:00:17.99)
Mmm.

Adesoji Iginla (01:00:25.072)
Like that, yeah.

Milton Allimadi (01:00:25.882)
Right.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:00:26.659)
Trilateralism, the Trilateral Commission and Elite Planning for World Management. This was from way back in my college days, but yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (01:00:35.472)
So I would suggest, like the good comrade said, requaliamsis, capitalism and slavery, and also the interests, how the so-called reparations was paid to the enslavers. So this is by Michael Taylor. And then also how we got to the question of the United Nations. Please read Vijay Prashad's Washington Bullets, which is.

Milton Allimadi (01:00:54.695)
Thank

Adesoji Iginla (01:01:04.99)
is very short read but this book is packed with so much information. It's titled The Washington Bullets.

Milton Allimadi (01:01:11.331)
Right. Yeah, I like him. I like him a lot too. So comrades, I have to run, but you continue the conversation, please continue informing our people. I will be with you next week, of course. I just have to complete some research for the professor I'm working with. So yeah, so I'm going to leave the thing on to finish downloading later on. But I'm going to, I'm going to, yeah, okay. Asandha Sam. Thank you.

Adesoji Iginla (01:01:14.722)
Yeah, yeah, okay.

Adesoji Iginla (01:01:28.546)
Okay, no problem, no problem.

OK, OK, thank you.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:01:34.425)
Thank you. Have a great week.

Adesoji Iginla (01:01:37.092)
Yeah, thank you for coming through. So, yeah. Yeah. Again, you know, this all these stories, it bears down on Africa's. How can I say it? Our future, our past, the past, obviously, you know, on the lines, on the pins, what the future is. And from time to time, you have all this useful idiots pop up.

and just write a book and then tell us, this is what you should now believe. And I'll be minded to say, for people who don't see the show, they'll probably run with his line of argument that, you know, what are you doing? Why all of a sudden you've decided these people are, they were benevolent, they came to Africa. And he's usually Africans. That will run with his narrative. And so.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:02:32.791)
Well, I think a lot of that has to do with, and I'm so glad that you brought this particular article up because I think that has to do with our miseducation. And as John Henry Clark would say, like your oppressors are never going to educate you to be able to liberate yourself. That's just not how it's going to work.

And so it's easier for us to, based on how we've been socialized and educated, to believe in our own inferiority, to buy into our own complicity. And particularly in those countries where there was indirect rule, we have gotten to the place where we just believe, it's our people just doing whatever wrongs that are being done, as opposed to understanding that there's a puppet master or mistress somewhere.

Adesoji Iginla (01:03:16.412)
pulling the strings.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:03:17.207)
That is, that is, and so I do think that we shouldn't just brush away this argument that keeps popping up about, weren't there some African chiefs that were involved? I think that what we need to do is face that head on and at the same time, tell the stories that they won't tell, which is the number of African kings and chiefs who fought back.

the ones who were killed, the ones who committed suicide, the ones who were exiled. There are so many stories of how we fought back. And so the fact that today you have some women, for instance, in the United States of America who go along with patriarchy.

does not make patriarchy good, does not excuse the evils and the oppression of patriarchy, does not mean that all women have bought into it. So the fact, know, so even if you can identify a few leaders who sometimes were being coerced through what they called gunboat diplomacy, who in other ways were being told, if you don't look at, look at the story of Nzinga, some people call her Nzinga.

Adesoji Iginla (01:04:36.08)
Yep.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:04:37.471)
If you don't capture and sell some people to us, this is what we're going to do to you. There were a lot. It's very nuanced. The bottom line is we have an obligation to study so that we're not so easy to easily taken in by the flies. And then we have to have to ask ourselves, why is this man writing this book now? What is his goal?

Adesoji Iginla (01:04:45.796)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (01:04:55.46)
India.

Adesoji Iginla (01:05:01.956)
now.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:05:04.757)
And Britain, are you denying how much you made from colonialism?

Adesoji Iginla (01:05:10.66)
You see, I mean, his basic premise, is, you know, Britain doesn't really have to answer for much, you know, disparaged by even during, what's it called, the George Floyd protest, part of the revelations here was the Lloyds of London, which happened to be the chief maritime insurers of all times, came out and told you

they basically insured all the slave ships. So if a corporation is saying that, what is your grounds for what you're pushing back upon? You're just pushing back upon the language. The facts do not support.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:05:58.489)
They're really afraid that they could be bankrupted. That's all it is. Because there is a case to be made, and this whole white people are so much smarter and have built the whole civilization to hear Stephen Miller say it, when we start peeling back the layers and realizing, no, it was the labor, intelligence, and resources from the quote unquote global south that actually propped you all up. And that is why

Adesoji Iginla (01:06:02.306)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, the facts.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:06:27.331)
France is beginning to feel the impact economically of all these African nations saying, yeah, you're not going to ride on us, backs anymore. It's really fear. It's really fear, yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (01:06:37.798)
correct. Yeah, It's yeah, speaking of fear, and again, the impact of so called colonialism. I shouldn't say so called impact of colonialism and now neocolonialism. We go to our final article for today, which is from the German organization, Dutch Vela, and it reads Tanzania, Maasai people facing government pressure to leave.

I would read a part of that and I was sort of taken aback at the level of disparateness here. So it says, Tanzania authorities have pushed Maasai relocation since 2022, sparking condemnation from right groups with election nearing with pressure to shift or deepen. Well, pressure shift or deepen, it says. And it goes further. The Maasai, an ethnic group indigenous to southern Kenya,

and Northern Tanzania have grazed livestock around Tanzania Lake Natron for years, for generations. Back ranges from the Tanzania Wildlife Management Authority, Tawa have been accused of conspicuating Maasai cattle, charging unofficial fees and enforcing new restrictions, measures the Maasai said threaten their survival. But this is the part that jumped out at me.

We were never consulted about turning Lake Natron into a games reserve, Daudi said. The land is where our livestock graze, and without it, our family cannot survive. Your initial take before I come back to it.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:08:20.505)
So one of the reasons it's important again to study history is because then you can see the patterns. And if you don't understand the history, then it's easy to just let things happen again. So as I read this story, I was also thinking about the Native Americans. A majority of states in the United States of America are actually named after the indigenous owners of this land.

Adesoji Iginla (01:08:26.875)
Hmm.

Adesoji Iginla (01:08:38.662)
Mm.

Adesoji Iginla (01:08:45.702)
no, yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:08:47.701)
and how when the white people could not fairly fight and kill off the Native Americans, indigenous people, and their smallpox blankets didn't kill enough people and so on and so forth, they realized that they depended on the buffalo for their livelihood, for meat.

for clothing, they used the dung of the buffalo for to heat their homes or building homes for every part of the buffalo from the hair to the horn to the everything was, yes, was used. you want to talk about sustainable development. And so what did they do? These colonizers, they attacked the buffalo. They killed off

Adesoji Iginla (01:09:14.16)
for two years.

Adesoji Iginla (01:09:19.898)
The horns.

the hoops.

Adesoji Iginla (01:09:30.0)
Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (01:09:33.99)
The kill log book.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:09:39.181)
They just massacred the buffalo, thereby creating a situation where the indigenous people could not live.

in those areas and then it's easier to then force them and force them onto so-called reservations so that you can continue your capitalist venture here. So that's what came to mind as I was reading this story. And then of course, as you said, you go down and you're like, why, because I'm like, what is motivating this? What have these people done? Like why are you bothering them? Why are you taking their cattle? You know, why are you fining them? With which money are they supposed to pay?

And it's like, we want a game reserve. Okay. So is this for us to now start talking about our tourism industry and, you know, we want to get tourists to come and go on safaris. And so that is worth eliminating these people from their land.

Adesoji Iginla (01:10:22.48)
game reserve. Can you imagine for whom?

Adesoji Iginla (01:10:29.158)
Going on safaris, yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (01:10:38.256)
Displacement, yeah, yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:10:41.335)
and them not having a say. So again, to the point we made earlier, you're coming to the United Nations and you're saying, we should have a say, we should have a seat at the table. But in our own countries, you are silencing people. You're gonna move them 600 kilometers away. Their ancestors are buried in this land. The climate is the kind of food that grows even similar.

Adesoji Iginla (01:10:53.402)
You're denying the same to the same people.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:11:11.021)
wherever it is you're moving them to. But they have no say whatsoever because you want a game reserve. And then the thing is, does it always have to be either or? If the notion of a game reserve, and I'm being as generous as I can be, is to preserve the environment and to ensure that the animals don't go extinct and so on and so forth, is there no way

Adesoji Iginla (01:11:21.445)
Hmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:11:38.915)
to accomplish that while maintaining the culture of a people, their way of life of living.

Adesoji Iginla (01:11:45.606)
that have lived with the same animals.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:11:49.443)
that have lived with the same, that can actually teach you a thing or two or three or four or five or six.

Adesoji Iginla (01:11:53.996)
about the animals.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:11:57.203)
So again, African leaders, cannot listen how the West lives. And yes, I live in the West, but if all what are we now? 9 billion people on the face of the earth. Is it seven?

Adesoji Iginla (01:12:09.446)
Seven. Yeah, I think seven. Yeah, seven points.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:12:14.411)
Okay. Whatever billion we are, if the entire world attempted to live the way people in the West live, the climate that we're talking about will collapse in about two years. It can't even sustain it for that long. How we live is not sustainable.

Adesoji Iginla (01:12:20.42)
the way the West lives.

Adesoji Iginla (01:12:31.334)
Hmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:12:32.353)
We are all going to have to make some changes. You know, this idea of you should have electricity 24 hours a day and it's fossil fuel and you have in one house 20 devices because you have a TV in every room and a this and a this and a that. is not the environment cannot sustain it. So why not talk with these people and have a better understanding on how they've lived.

and preserve that, yes, we can see what makes sense in terms of preserving the land without harming the original caretakers of this land. Instead, we keep being led by these Western ideas of development and we completely, when we say Black Lives Matter, do Black Lives Matter? Do the Maasai Lives Matter?

Adesoji Iginla (01:13:18.32)
But here's the irony in that article that said the place is supposed to be a World Heritage Site. What is the point of having a heritage site when the people who have lived there, whose heritage is the one you want to showcase, have been disappeared?

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:13:40.087)
Yeah, we're just going to put up a museum.

Adesoji Iginla (01:13:46.916)
I mean, sometimes you have to laugh when you read those articles. It's like, what are you doing? Don't you understand what it you're doing to your people? And when I use the term neocolonialism, these are people who are supposed to be free from the yoke of colonialism. But yet, they're still carrying on what Aikwame would describe as being the

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:13:46.945)
Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (01:14:15.684)
the default of being the foreign interpreters within our space.

And it begs the question that for how long would Africa continue to yield to the whims of the West? I mean, I have nothing against someone wanting to come there and take pictures of animals, but you don't do it to the detriment of the people who live there. You don't. You don't.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:14:25.571)
Yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:14:46.199)
Well, you do it, you do if you don't value yourself, if you see yourself as expendable as they see you.

Adesoji Iginla (01:14:53.508)
Hmm

Yes, yes. And with that story, we've come to the end of another episode of African News Review. The good comrade had to leave because study calls. And sister, any final thoughts?

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:15:21.081)
These are These are very important times I probably every generation has said that but we are really at a place where any one thing could tip us one way or Tip us in a different way So while we look at what is happening globally while we look at what

Nation leaders are doing or not doing what I would say is that each of us needs to look at what we can Individually do what we have control of What's your carbon footprint? What are you doing to build up your own communities where you are What are you doing to take care of yourself and build yourself up as well? And how are you beginning to wean yourself off of?

Adesoji Iginla (01:15:59.334)
Mmm.

Mm, mm.

Adesoji Iginla (01:16:12.698)
Yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:16:18.531)
capitalism and this sense that the way of the West is the only way to go.

Adesoji Iginla (01:16:27.526)
Yeah, powerful. And also, you know, I just like to add to that, you know, we also have to understand that just because we can sometimes doesn't just because we can sometimes doesn't mean we should. And what do I mean by that? You walk past something you want to have it, but do you need it?

Needs and wants are two different things. So again, the more one engages with that aspect of one's life, you find that you're actually much more richer than you think. And I don't mean just rich because you have the resources. You're rich mentally because philosophically, you are content. And content you cannot buy. You cannot buy. So that's it.

the sister and I would be looking at the lives and times of Abbe Lincoln this Wednesday, 7 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. And yes, and that's on women and resistance. Again, Abbe Lincoln. So some of you might know her and some not, but come along all the same. You might learn something different. And yes, we also have to give

goodbyes to one of our previous guests, Sister Asata Olukbala Shokur, who joined the Ancestors this week. And yeah, Sister, I'll give the word to you.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:18:07.979)
In my spirit, just see that radiant smile of hers and I see her dancing. Wow, what a revolutionary. And they never got her. She absolutely, two million dollars on her head and she died three.

Adesoji Iginla (01:18:12.038)
Mmm.

Adesoji Iginla (01:18:31.948)
Mm. Mm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:18:35.681)
And I know that she does not want us crying.

She wants us fighting back. And she wants us to understand that this system cannot be reformed. The system has to be dismantled. She was unequivocal about that, but I just feel her.

God, her spirit is so strong and so pure and so joyous at this time. And I'm so grateful that we had a chance to, yeah, celebrate her, pay homage to her, even while she was living, know, probably never saw it herself, but others did, others will. Asada Shakurish is an ancestor that...

Adesoji Iginla (01:19:15.162)
Celebrator.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:19:30.167)
You want to keep on your lips. Yes.

Adesoji Iginla (01:19:32.684)
And also one of the stuff I want to mention in the United Nations speech was the fact that all the African leaders advocated for Cuba, that the embargo should be lifted. And so being that said, I think it's incumbent on us to actually understand what a tiny island that is just 50,

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:19:45.495)
Yes, they did. Yes, they did. I'm glad you raised that. Yes.

Adesoji Iginla (01:20:02.434)
nautical miles from the from florida how they have been so dogged and revolutionary there is a book i was reading a couple of years ago it's titled the media war against cuba it's written by kit bollander it's actually a very brilliant book which goes into how even your new secretary of state marco ribu how

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:20:04.281)
10 million people.

Adesoji Iginla (01:20:32.356)
His family, so I mean, it's a brilliant, I mean, this is the book. It's tight.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:20:37.753)
How his family did what?

Adesoji Iginla (01:20:40.324)
how his family played on the so-called hatred of Cuba to anguish themselves in the American system. And if you scratch beneath the surface, it's you know, it's devoid of meaning. And again,

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:20:59.469)
But basically what the leaders at the UN were mentioning is it isn't just the embargo against Cuba by the United States, is the fact that they are going against, going after anybody in any entity that tries to do business in any way with Cuba, know, from airlines to banks, know, financial institutions. So basically it's like, fine, I can't break your will.

Adesoji Iginla (01:21:24.507)
Mm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:21:29.827)
but I'm going to starve you of all the resources I can and anybody who attempts to, because Cuba is, mean, they send firefighters, they send physicians, they send all kinds of medical personnel, they train other, South Africa talked about this, they train other revolutionaries, if you will. So they have a lot to offer, yes.

Adesoji Iginla (01:21:54.522)
Yeah, they were actually, they were pivotal to South Africa becoming an independent country, defeating the Unita rebels at the Battle of Kuno-Kanavao. And that was 1978 and subsequently Mandela would be released. And before you know it, Cyril Ramaphosa would be, you know, I mean, so.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:22:01.049)
Absolutely.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:22:20.169)
So it's been about 60 years of trying to starve this nation, keeping them caught off from technological advances and so on and so forth. And for what?

Adesoji Iginla (01:22:24.058)
Hmm.

Adesoji Iginla (01:22:36.646)
because they didn't buy into capitalism.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:22:38.603)
Yes, and so calling them a terrorist state but as miyamotli pointed out that is only the u.s What terrorism have they sponsored? so Plenty of work to be done. Yeah, for those of you who want to be revolutionaries, there's a lot of work to be done so get to work Don't just have a name

Adesoji Iginla (01:22:58.15)
Yeah, start reading. Read, read, read, read, and read some more. So yeah, until Wednesday when we'll come together again on Women and Resistance, the Lives and Times of Abbe Lincoln. It's a good night from me and sister.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:23:17.625)
Thank you again. Santisana everyone. Let's fight on.

Adesoji Iginla (01:23:19.79)
Yeah, yeah, good night and good night.