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Adesoji Iginla hosted a conversation titled 'Project 2025, a people's conversation' discusses the document known as Project 2025, which is a step-by-step manual on how to effectively take over a country. 
The guests - Nitra, Marlon Ausby and Aya Fubara Eneli highlighted the strategic nature of the document and the collaboration among various conservative groups and think tanks. They touched on the appeal of strongman leadership and the desire to return to a time when white men held power. 
The conversation emphasized the need to raise awareness about Project 2025 and the importance of countering its goals, several themes were highlighted including the exorbitant cost of government projects, the lack of resources for solutions, the impact on vulnerable populations, the erosion of accountability and transparency, the focus on war and militarization, the disregard for the environment and climate change, the attack on reproductive rights and healthcare, and the opposition to unions and workers' rights. 
The discussion zoomed in on the proposed dismantling of social programs, control over media and technology, the erosion of justice, the threat to civil rights, and the attack on consumer protections. It also discussed Project 2025 use of the manipulation of language and the need for awareness and action. 
The document aims to consolidate power for conservative interests and marginalize already marginalised communities. Aya Fubara Eneli emphasizes the importance of spreading awareness, engaging in political activism, and protecting democratic values. 
Nitra spoke in great detail on the various ways in which the proposed policies in the 922-page document can negatively impact marginalized communities, particularly women of color. It discusses the potential harm caused by gender affirming care restrictions, the implications of checking children's genitals, and the disproportionate impact on black girls. 
The conversation also addresses the erosion of the separation of church and state, the attack on reproductive rights, and the discriminatory nature of the proposed policies. It emphasizes the need for vigilance, coalition building, and active engagement to protect rights and opportunities for future generations. 
Marlon highlighted the need to take action and vote against Project 2025, He  emphasized the importance of voter registration and engagement, as well as the need to organize and fight for workers' rights. 
The discussion also exposed the diabolical nature of the plan and the potential harm it could cause to various aspects of society. 
In closing the speakers encouraged critical thinking and urge listeners to stay informed and active in the political process.

00:00 Introduction and Participants
09:04 Strategic Planning and Collaboration
16:29  Focus on White Supremacy and Exclusivity
24:12   Lack of Awareness and Mobilisation
30:16  Introduction to Project 2025
37:13  Disregard for Neighborhood Diversity
43:08 Attacks on Reproductive Rights
52:20 Monitoring Pregnancies and Restricting Healthcare
58:53 Controlling Media and Technology
01:05:45 Attacking Consumer Protections
01:17:23 The Importance of Awareness, Education, and Activism
01:34:29 Discrimination and Control: Threats to Marginalized Communities
01:41:28 Undermining the Separation of Church and State
01:47:33 Targeting Reproductive Rights
02:00:42 The Need for Vigilance and Engagement
02:06:28 Eliminating Data Collection on Race and Ethnicity
02:12:51 The Importance of Voting and Organizing
02:20:45 Taking Action: Educating, Registering, and Voting

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Adesoji Iginla (00:01.87)
Yes. Good evening, good day, wherever you are in any part of the world. And welcome to Adesoggi Speaks. And this is a conversation titled Project 2025, a people's conversation. And with me, have Nitra. You want to do your conversation? You want to do your introduction?

Nitra (00:23.4)
Okay. I'm Neetra. I'm the founder of Political Education for Freedom, non -profit. We also have a podcast, Political Education for Freedom on all streaming platforms. And I'm an educator and just overall freedom fighter.

Adesoji Iginla (00:47.854)
Okay, Brother Mylon.

Marlon Ausby (00:51.515)
Hey, peace, peace, peace, everybody. My name is Marlon Osby. I live in San Antonio. Just wrapped up a 21 year military career in the United States Army. I'm a Nubian and I'll be starting law school at Third Good Marshall School of Law in five days. So I'll be living in Houston.

for the next three years. So, and just trying to run a good race for my

Adesoji Iginla (01:26.786)
Congratulations on the schooling and on the service to country. Sister Aya.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:32.901)
Yes Good evening. Good afternoon. Good morning wherever you are whenever you're watching this My name is Ia Fubari Nelly and thank you so much brother Adesuji for convening this really important Topic and for bringing together the people that you have today. I am an attorney mother of five I'm an author I

founded a mentoring program for girls in my community and I also have helped to establish a library in Opovo and we're in the works to also incorporate a school because our whole focus is truly giving back to our youth, equipping them with the skills and the support that they need.

to be everything their creator has designed them to be. And that is one of the reasons why we need to have a conversation about this project 2025 and what plans other people seem to have for us.

Adesoji Iginla (02:33.37)
And yes, I'm the convener, I'm the host, I'm the writer, podcaster, can find audio versions of all this on any of your audio podcast platforms and do all the necessary stuff. And don't forget whilst you're here, like, share and subscribe and help grow the channel. so yes, Project 2025.

Who wants to have the first staff? Let me preface it with this. Kevin Roberts, who happens to be the head of the Heritage Foundation said, America is on the cusp of a second revolution and it would be bloodless if the left allows it to be. Why do you think he made that statement? Any one of you

Nitra (03:27.446)
I mean, I'll take a stab at it because he's serious. I think that these people are at the end of the rope and they'll go to any extreme to... Because they're not dog whistling, to scream at their supporters to get ready for something.

Adesoji Iginla (03:33.262)
laughter

Nitra (03:56.66)
you know, like that with bloodshed because we know in this country, no revolution has been fought through, you know, diplomacy. It's, it's been through violence and he's basically telling his, you know, his supporters get ready because it's going to get violent. And I think that, you know, that's a message that resonates with, with them.

because they are inherently violent. So I think that's the only way he can speak to

Marlon Ausby (04:33.381)
Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (04:34.722)
Anyone else?

Marlon Ausby (04:36.715)
I think, I mean, I see it as a veiled threat. If you look at the extreme right, violence has for a long time been a part of their rhetoric. It's been a part of their execution. And I think he's just kind of, that was a nod to that particular segment of his constituency.

I think that's really what it was because on the left, really don't even have a strong, you didn't have a, you didn't have strong political action nationally with regard to how the US is. It's, you can't call out any individual, right? Because until recently, you really didn't have anybody that was full throated against Trump. So.

Yeah, I think it was just political

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (05:38.309)
So when you read that quote, what came to mind is...

Adesoji Iginla (05:38.646)
Sister.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (05:43.055)
You know, at one point in my career, I used to prosecute domestic violence cases. And you would hear something like, you know, if she didn't make me so mad, I don't know how to, you know, I don't know how to blow her head off. No, I'm exaggerating, but you understand what I'm trying to say. Like I wouldn't have hit her. I wouldn't have done so and so if she hadn't done X, Y, and Z. And so I just see this like the ultimate form of gaslighting. When we look at

who these conservatives have. And you know what, today I hope that we can take back the words and the language because they have co -opted so much and we'll just allow them to have it. They're not conservatives, they are fascists. And we need to label a thing what it is because many of us are conservative, but we're not out here trying to deny everybody else their humanity and to lord it over anybody. So they're not conservatives, they are fascists. And we need to reclaim.

Adesoji Iginla (06:26.979)
Cool.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (06:41.419)
Certain words just like when people say I'm pro -life, but you're also pro Death penalty even though you see that so many people who do get the death penalty that it is based on race and on Their poverty status, know, they're the economic status as well. So anyway getting back to your point about revolution You have to look at how like like Marlon and nature have said how people operate your your you're the ones who were marching with tiki -tok

You're the ones who are holding up the Confederate flag and saying the Ku Klux Klan and what they did in the Confederacy, that's your legacy. That's your heritage, right? You're the ones who stormed the Capitol building on January 6th. So there's nothing that you do that is not violent related. So to turn around and say it would be bloodless if the left, again, it's that person beating up someone else and say, I wouldn't have had to beat you up if you had.

Adesoji Iginla (07:14.37)
Mm

Marlon Ausby (07:39.195)
He he he.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (07:40.208)
If you're just falling in line. And so that's what they're saying. Do as we say you should do, otherwise we're coming in with the violence. It's a threat.

Nitra (07:51.498)
Mm

Adesoji Iginla (07:51.822)
Okay, so speaking of the threats, would you say that document in itself, project 2025? I believe you have a copy printed out there. Just show people this.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (08:04.231)
I have to show your audience this. Hold on. Yes, because people need to understand and sometimes we need visuals. So I put it in a binder and I printed it double -sided. Yes. Yes. This is it. Double -sided. Listen, you can't carry this too long. You're muscles are going to stop.

Nitra (08:05.75)
You printed it? my gosh. I

Marlon Ausby (08:08.788)
all those trees

Nitra (08:20.049)
Whoa.

Nitra (08:24.048)
That's it, double sided.

Adesoji Iginla (08:26.862)
Double sided yes.

Marlon Ausby (08:31.983)
War and Peace!

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (08:33.819)
Way it next time and let you guys know exactly how much this thing weighs But yes, this is the document that they have put together their playbook as they called it or how they're going to take over power and

Adesoji Iginla (08:47.982)
So a quick breakdown of that book is it's five sections, 30 chapters, and over 922 pages of a step -by -step manual of how to take, effectively take over a government. Well, no, not a government, a country.

And so going clockwise, Sister, I have first. What stood out for you initially when you opened the document?

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (09:29.583)
What stood out is that some of us talk and don't work, and some people talk and work. And what these guys have done is be very strategic, although as we will break down later, there are lots of problems with this document. But the fact that they assembled these many people, they went through the entire federal government system with the way that they did.

to put together a playbook that is pretty much, you don't have to have much common sense. Just go to the page that pertains to what we tell you to do and just follow it and do it, is instructive. So the first thing that stood out for me was we are against some very formidable opponents. We may look at the clown who is heading their Maza movement and

point finger, you know, we can point to his flaws and the issues with his character. But behind him are some very strategic people who are not just working nationally, they are actually working internationally to implement their vision of what the world should look like. And we will be full hearty to be dismissive of them. That is what first stood out for me.

Adesoji Iginla (10:55.355)
System Nitro.

Nitra (10:58.219)
Yeah, I noticed that too as well. what the biggest thing that stood out to me was in the way that it was instructive. So the way that it's organized, it tells you about, you know, whatever this topic is. And then it actually gives you steps. It gives you their actual instructions. This is what we want to

this is how we're going to do it. And like Aya said, anybody, it's not, you know, law or policy jargon. It's in plain language. And it's almost translated. You know, it starts off with, you know, they have all this information, you know, chunk of information, they have the footnotes. And then right under it, I look at it and I see teacher notes.

Adesoji Iginla (11:40.184)
Mmm.

Nitra (11:55.764)
And I'm like, wait a minute, this is for the regular person. So it's not just for the big wigs in government, but it's also for these average everyday people who are doing stuff like running for school board. This is stuff that they can actually, they don't have to have a formal education

Adesoji Iginla (12:01.015)
Mm -hmm

Adesoji Iginla (12:22.764)
Yeah.

Nitra (12:25.066)
to use this guide to do the same thing within their local area, their local community. I think that that was the biggest thing that stood out and it's just chapter after chapter. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. They didn't change up. They gave explicit instructions. And I kind of hate that we don't have that, but...

It's a lot of thought that was put into this. I mean, they're serious. They are serious. And they're looking for the regular average person who will buy into this and actually help them carry it out. It's a community -driven plan. They're going to do it with others, not just those guys in Washington.

Adesoji Iginla (12:59.701)
Mm.

Adesoji Iginla (13:21.976)
Mullen?

Marlon Ausby (13:23.547)
Yeah, to piggyback off both of the sisters, one of the things that jumped out to me was the collaborative scope of the document, right? When you look at the 500 plus contributors, you see Center for Immigration Studies, Parents Right Foundation,

Ohio Northern University College of Law. You see the Rand Corporation, you see American Affairs, Keystone Policy. So it's not, you don't see, it's not a singular group. This is bigger than the Heritage Foundation, right? They're reaching across to other think tanks. And of course, people that they can't list, right? They can't insert, like they can't put like packs on here, but you know that they're working

Adesoji Iginla (14:20.6)
Mm -hmm.

Marlon Ausby (14:21.145)
packs. so, you know, to me, was a was a to me, it was a it should have it served as like a call to arms. should be a call to arms to everybody who sees the list of contributors and all the different places they're coming from. Because some of these are cultural places that, you know, they want to control how people live. Some of them are banks, some of them are education centers, you know. And I

Adesoji Iginla (14:38.68)
Mm -hmm.

Marlon Ausby (14:48.773)
You know, some of them are just law firms, big law. So we have to take into account that the other side is collaborating. They're not getting caught up on how old somebody is, how young somebody is, you know, and all of this. So, you know, I just, wonder, you know, how far do I, do I purity tests go too far, you know, in furtherance of our goals, you know, we really got to figure

Adesoji Iginla (15:01.164)
Yep, yep.

Marlon Ausby (15:18.596)
Do we want to just have a... Can we afford to be that picky when it comes to collaborating?

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (15:29.113)
talk about collaborating though, it's the same people that collaborated. Part of the challenge I think that people who are about our common humanity have is that you're trying to build such a big tent with such diverse and divergent viewpoints. But what they've done is with whatever they consider conservative,

There are a very specific group of people that they have had to work with them that collaborated with them. This was not a big tent. So there are certain kinds of Christians that they did not include in this and that there are certain kinds of Republicans that they did not include in this. you know, what's his name? Ryan, Paul Ryan, who was a Republican for so long. They didn't include him in this or Mitt Romney or some of the more moderate Republicans. This is a MAGA.

Nitra (16:21.162)
you

Nitra (16:26.666)
Yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (16:26.875)
And so even though we can name all of these organizations and individuals who collapse, they are from cut from the same cloth, really.

And I think what you're seeing on the other side is, well, we want the women and we want the Native Americans and we want the Hispanics and we want the blacks who are a dose and not a dose. And we want this and we want to lose all these guys. And then it's harder for us to come together and have one cogent voice. But with what they've done, they have basically said to hell with everybody else and what you believe. This is what we believe. And we're going to ram it down your throats.

Adesoji Iginla (17:00.042)
Everybody else.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (17:07.427)
That's just how I see it

Marlon Ausby (17:09.903)
Yeah, but they aren't really sniping at the Mitt Romney's and the Paul Ryan's in this document, right? Yeah, because they're on the fringes. When you bring those names up, I see people that are politically adrift, right? don't have a voice. They don't have a voice in their party.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (17:16.271)
They've neutralized them.

Adesoji Iginla (17:19.64)
Mm -hmm, mm -hmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (17:25.083)
They got rid of them. They got rid of them, yes. They neutralize folks. So it's our way or the highway. There's no coexisting. And I think that's the other reason why so many people will pledge allegiance to them because literally you understand they will give you no room to live if you don't come on their side. They're that brutal.

Adesoji Iginla (17:50.21)
The

Nitra (17:50.39)
And I think that they want that. I think a lot of their followers want to be led by dictators, authoritarians, fascists. I think they want that. It's lot of people, more people I'm noticing with this MAGA movement. one, they don't know what freedom is, but they don't want freedom. They want to be told to do stuff. They want to be told...

You know how to live what to live they also want to be the one to tell other people What to do and how to do it? It's like I'm getting my instructions from up here and then I go and I tell because you know I'm the you know I'm the top of I'm at the top of the bottom so I get either one to tell people what to do, but I noticed a lot of these MAGA people I'm like

Adesoji Iginla (18:42.2)
Mm.

Nitra (18:49.01)
I, when I do talk to them, cause I don't have patience for them, but I'm like, you don't want to have your own, you know, and they're like, yeah, okay. But you know that that's not what that is. And they're like, so like, don't care. It's, it's, it's, they're completely, you know, dismissive. So for me, it's, I know it's some, other mental stuff going on, but I think it's a lot of people that want to be led

Adesoji Iginla (19:05.602)
You

Nitra (19:19.402)
you know, these types, know, groups like this, they want a big manual like this that they can go and, you know, basically get all the answers from or, you know, so -called, if you want to call it that. But I think that they don't have the imagination. They're weak. think, I don't, I have, and I'm talking about the, like the Tiki Torch guys, you know,

Adesoji Iginla (19:41.197)
Mm.

Nitra (19:49.525)
You know, the

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (19:49.639)
So if you say, let me, let me like go further with some, or ask you to go further with something you just said. They're weak. So what they're really looking for is, let me ask, would you say that what they're really looking for is protection? That strong person that goes strong man, because it ain't gonna be a woman for them, a strong man that can then protect them. Is that the appeal?

Marlon Ausby (20:08.771)
A strong man.

Adesoji Iginla (20:11.799)
You

Nitra (20:17.622)
You know what, that makes total sense. It's almost like, you know, the sidekick to the bully. It's like, I never understood why a bully has a sidekick. It's like, this is a bully. He has no loyalty to no one. But the bully always has a sidekick. And it's like, why is that guy still there?

Adesoji Iginla (20:34.55)
you

Nitra (20:44.392)
And I think that's what it is like. It's like at least I'm being protected from, you know, I'm gonna be abused by this guy, but I'm gonna be protected from those people over there. I think it is. They are that weak, that they're looking for that strong man to sort of, yeah, to kind of protect them and take care of them like they're babies.

Adesoji Iginla (21:13.326)
Speaking

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (21:13.337)
Which brings me to another part of when you say what else stood out for you.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (21:21.192)
So much of this document is about returning America to when white men would have considered it great.

Adesoji Iginla (21:29.771)
Mmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (21:30.019)
So much of this document is about dismantling the rights of the others. So much of this document is about limiting other people's access to power and agency. And I think it goes back again to this fear of their own weakness because when it's a level playing field.

You know when they talk when they're talking about getting rid of what really all the civil rights? Laws that have been passed when they talk about getting rid of the housing Agency when they're talking about doing away with DEI in any form except of course the ultimate DEI Which is white men and those of you who don't know what DEI is its diversity equity

Nitra (21:53.417)
They can't win.

Marlon Ausby (22:18.851)
equity.

Adesoji Iginla (22:19.456)
Equity and inclusion.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (22:21.755)
And what they want is division exclusivity That's that's what they want and so really what it is about is We can't compete on an evil playing field So we need to back to when we could stack all the chips in our favor and against everybody else and that way we feel like we're still in charge and we feel protected and we don't feel as threatened and who can help us get back

Adesoji Iginla (22:26.269)
You

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (22:49.979)
When America was great again, it is this cultish figure that they have bought into, including the so -called white evangelicals who 80 % of them voted for Trump in 2020. And so a lot of this document for me here, when they're about conservatism, conservatism, conservatism, and when they're talking about Christian roots and family values and all of that, it's harkening back to

It's a dog whistle that heartening back to a time when nobody else had any rights that a white man had to recognize or respect. Yes. And they have a Supreme Court with the black man who doesn't know he's black, who could very well usher us back to that time.

Adesoji Iginla (23:29.461)
Yep, yep.

Marlon Ausby (23:30.728)
Roger Taney.

Nitra (23:32.074)
Mm -hmm.

Nitra (23:42.806)
Mm -hmm. Clayton can't speak. He's the clay. He's the...

Adesoji Iginla (23:45.806)
Speaking of taking us back to that time, Section 1 says, taking the reins of government. And I'll quote something here. It says, the modern conservative president's task is to limit, control, and direct the executive branch on behalf of the American people. Now, one of the key things of this document is the language, which Nitra spoke to

when you read it for what it is.

It's double speak. When you say limit control and direct the executive branch on behalf of the American people, is that not the case at the moment?

But to take it back suggests you want somebody to do something other than what is already in place. And we all saw what transpired with the Supreme Court when the question of immunity came up and the guy effectively got cut blanched to do anything. So question now to you guys is,

If this is a dog whistle and it's so loud, why is it that we're not moving in one direction? Going back to what Marlon was saying earlier, which is how is it that we can have such a wide range in documents that is so obvious in its content and so obvious with intent, but yet people are not focused enough on it.

Adesoji Iginla (25:40.876)
Why is that the case?

Marlon Ausby (25:46.235)
I think when we say when we say people aren't focused on it enough, I think would it be fair to say that that the level of focus on this document will probably be apparent on election day?

Nitra (26:07.549)
you

Marlon Ausby (26:08.824)
Or are you talking about maybe the left producing a counter document to this? Are you talking about more operationally, like on the ground, responding to this

Adesoji Iginla (26:17.196)
Okay, let's yeah. Okay, so let's say, I mean, we're having a conversation about it now,

Marlon Ausby (26:23.611)
Because if Kamala wins, then this is mute, right? Because this is just for now, right? And I'm pretty sure they'll revise it and have Project 2029. But I mean,

Adesoji Iginla (26:27.757)
Mm -hmm.

Nitra (26:27.764)
Thank you.

Adesoji Iginla (26:30.604)
for

Nitra (26:34.368)
Right.

Adesoji Iginla (26:40.33)
Yeah.

Nitra (26:40.576)
It's not a big book you just throw away.

Marlon Ausby (26:47.34)
Right,

Adesoji Iginla (26:48.008)
Mm.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (26:49.787)
these guys have demonstrated they're in this for the long haul. So this project 2025 just didn't start, you know, a couple years ago. This has been just like with Roe v Wade, like they worked on it for 50 plus years, just like with

Adesoji Iginla (26:57.165)
Mm -hmm.

Nitra (27:00.48)
Yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (27:04.475)
the textbooks in the south and the whole idea of Why was slavery fought? Why was the Civil War fought? These people were in it for the long haul like yeah We are going to gradually change everything until it is the story we want told and so whether it's 2025 or 2029 or 2050

Nitra (27:08.627)
Okay.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (27:27.897)
I don't see this group of people and their offspring really giving up on what they consider their birthright.

Nitra (27:28.105)
Thank

Adesoji Iginla (27:37.064)
Mmm. Mmm.

Nitra (27:38.678)
I think we are, I think we are the, I think, I mean, the issue with the opposition to Project 2025 is, well, one, it's a lot of different factions. And I think Aya was explaining that, but just the everyday person doesn't know that

Marlon Ausby (27:38.831)
I agree with

Nitra (28:07.958)
this thing here exists or that this thing has existed for, I mean, they tell you in the book that they've been doing this since like this book was handed to Reagan or something like that. think they said, and I mean, myself, I just learned about project 2025. I didn't know that this was happening, you know, that this started in, you know, a time of Reagan or whatever.

Adesoji Iginla (28:18.766)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

Nitra (28:36.31)
So I think that's the case now. No one, they don't know that it's there. They don't know it exists. And there, we have to get creative in how we reach the people about something like this, because I think once, so after the BET Awards, I think that was Taraji P. Henson mentioned Project 2025.

the Google searches went up for Project 2025. So a lot of people actually started learning about it. But then the creators of Project 2025 was like, they know. So then it was like, let's fix this. I think that if, know, exactly.

Marlon Ausby (29:23.78)
No.

Adesoji Iginla (29:27.004)
you

Marlon Ausby (29:27.984)
I thought you said they weren't gonna read it, you know.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (29:32.747)
Hide it in a book.

Nitra (29:32.886)
That's what they're saying. Like they don't read this place doesn't read. So I think when, when they saw that it was getting some traction and I think just, you know, how black people, how we get information out is really through word of mouth. So when that, that one thing is said right there on something like the BET awards, I didn't watch it, but I got so many text messages saying, what is project 2025?

Adesoji Iginla (29:47.949)
Mm.

Nitra (30:02.678)
I know you know, what is it? Like they were asking me and I'm saying like in the family group chat and the friend group chat and you know, all of these people, yeah, they asked me like, what is project 2025? And it's like, I told you that this exists, but they didn't listen to me when I was telling them, but they listened to Toraji P. Henson. So I think us being able to get the information to them.

Marlon Ausby (30:11.087)
same.

Adesoji Iginla (30:20.828)
Mmm.

Nitra (30:29.91)
Even if it's just little tidbits, stuff that we know is going to get people uncomfortable to the point where they like, hell no, that's not happening here. You I think that's what we need to do. And that's why it's not a big, you know, that's why it's not a big unified movement against Project 2025 is because most of the people don't know it. They don't know about it. And they don't know how serious these people are. And they think that

When we say it, we're just fear mongering. But you

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (31:03.635)
I think most people don't know about it and I think that what the American capitalist system does is that it just sucks up all your energy and your strength that you really don't have time to organize to fight. Yes. Yes. So yeah, when you're not working to put bread on the table, you

Nitra (31:12.768)
Yeah.

Marlon Ausby (31:14.477)
and your attention, and your attention, you

Nitra (31:17.044)
Stolen focus.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (31:22.519)
looking for distractions to ease your mind and your body from the stress of whatever else it is that you so so whether it's a you know some some rap feud or whether it's somebody chasing a ball or whatever we we're we're looking for other things i should also say this at SOG and and if all your listeners and Marlon and Nitra that from my research

Marlon Ausby (31:24.877)
Netflix.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (31:50.107)
putting together project 2025, this document costs over $22 million. Like people really had it as their jobs to wake up in the morning and to just sit down and say what we want to screw up with the government today. And listen, listen, they got paid very well to contribute, right? So, and then they had research staff and they had resources and all of that. So I'm telling

Nitra (32:06.26)
Yeah, and they're paid to do it. They got paid to do

Adesoji Iginla (32:06.417)
I'm

Marlon Ausby (32:07.629)
Mm -hmm.

Marlon Ausby (32:13.947)
Mm -hmm.

Adesoji Iginla (32:14.382)
22 million.

Marlon Ausby (32:18.894)
Mm -hmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (32:19.883)
if if one of these very wealthy so -called, More humanistic people is what i'll say because i'm really not about the parties one way or the other Would say listen aya, would you be willing to put your gifts and talents and time? To helping to figure out how we can work towards solutions Yeah, you'll pay you'll pay me so can pay my bills. I have time all day for that But when i'm working a regular job and doing this and doing this and doing

Marlon Ausby (32:30.774)
Right.

Marlon Ausby (32:44.899)
haha

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (32:49.147)
Excuse me. It's a lot tougher to come and sit down and read through the minutiae in 922 pages Plus footnotes

Nitra (33:02.09)
Yeah. Plus footnotes. I didn't even get into the footnotes. But you're right because this, this capitalistic system, most of us are focused on trying to put food on the table. And that's, that's why we're getting the text messages saying, what is this? Because they want us to be able to give it to them real quick. And because they don't have the time. And that, that is

Adesoji Iginla (33:03.95)
Mm.

Nitra (33:31.85)
That is something that we can't, you know, the left, mean, and I don't know if it's the left or right, but I know that the opposition on our side, the opposition got a lot of resources. Imagine if they put all of that money into reparations. Like, I mean,

Adesoji Iginla (33:55.982)
That's another conversation.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (33:57.129)
If you can agree on

Nitra (34:00.214)
If we had the resources, we could do, you know what I'm saying? Like we could do something like this, but in something that would be, that would turn out to be, you know, positive. And I'm not just saying, cause this, this document talks about global reach. It does not talk about just the United States. So, you know, imagine if we were able to put those resources into,

Adesoji Iginla (34:02.732)
Mm -hmm.

Nitra (34:28.394)
you know, us getting back what's really ours on a global scale, us being able to pace, you know, Aya or someone to sit down and actually come up with solutions. We can't do that. We're spread so thin on the side of humanity that, you know, I don't know how many calls or text messages I get to volunteer to do stuff.

It's like, you know, they're not volunteering on that side. So that's a big deal. And that amount of money, like, wow. I didn't think it was that much.

Adesoji Iginla (35:01.944)
You

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (35:08.411)
Because both of you were saying people are calling and texting and saying what this is about what is this about? Let's give let's tell them what it's about. So for an example I'm just gonna throw out a few things in this that are in this project Anybody ever heard of the FDIC if you have a bank account you should know about the FDIC Or the vast majority of us you put your money into the bank and you have an expectation that up to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars of that money

Adesoji Iginla (35:08.552)
Wow.

Adesoji Iginla (35:22.412)
Okay.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (35:37.825)
Is protected should something happen with the bank or whatever? The government is going to make sure you get your money back one of the things that they are wanting to do it with them in this project is to Eliminate the fdic altogether in other words banks. I put my money in your account. I have in your bank I haven't trusted this funds to you You're already making money with my money because you know when we put our money in they just loan it to other people and so on and so forth You're already making money

Adesoji Iginla (35:38.537)
secure.

Marlon Ausby (36:03.17)
Right.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (36:04.219)
Now you can be as risky as you want to understanding that you can come back tomorrow and be like Aya You mean your life savings for 40 years was in this account. well, sorry. It's gone too bad and And so that's just one example. Let me give another example. any of you have children in public schools?

Marlon Ausby (36:13.049)
Hm hm.

Adesoji Iginla (36:25.23)
Mmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (36:25.683)
As much as they're talking about vouchers and so on and so forth, there are not enough private schools to educate all of our kids, particularly black and brown kids, kids from disadvantaged, economically disadvantaged homes, so on and so forth. These private schools are not free. They do not have to cap their tuition at just what the government gives as a voucher. They are not going to bus your children to school. They do not have the same requirements in terms of taking care of children with any special education needs. They don't have, in fact, they are under no

Requirements to even admit your child they can have whatever requirements that they want to because it's not federal dollars, right? It's not state dollars It's not it's money that they gave to the parent and then the parent chooses where they go with it Okay, so now understand that one of the things that this document says is Private schools do what the hell you want to essentially, but if your child is in public schools, they're going to take the svap now

Brother Marlon can tell us about that. That's what it's called, right? Did I say right? ASVAP? Okay. And specifically what they said about the ASVAP is because the military needs a recruiting pool. But we're not going to make that mandatory for these other kids who go to the private schools. Yes, the pool, the recruiting pool for whoever we're gonna send to go to whatever front lines or whatever.

Marlon Ausby (37:25.583)
The as verb did as verb as verb.

Adesoji Iginla (37:26.904)
Dad's back.

Nitra (37:41.408)
for the private. I'm gonna leave for the public.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (37:49.027)
and gonna be you, the children of those of you who are disadvantaged. it gets better. Remember how in the 60s, we had laws now that prosecuted people for discriminating against us when it comes to housing. Because you remember that we had all these HOAs, housing, what are they called? Housing, organization, association, whatever. But yes.

Nitra (38:06.518)
Mm

Nitra (38:12.234)
There were covenants and

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (38:15.515)
So they had all of these places where it's like, you can't, you can't sell to a black person. can't send to his spell to a Hispanic zone and so forth. Yes. What this project 2025 says is we trust the American people to choose what they want their neighborhoods to look like. So we're going to get rid of completely. exactly because it sounds good.

Marlon Ausby (38:23.685)
Yeah, red lining, racial covenants, yep.

Adesoji Iginla (38:24.814)
Redland.

Adesoji Iginla (38:34.53)
to look like,

You

Marlon Ausby (38:38.703)
those euphemisms those those euphemisms again I'm gonna say I just I trust you I trust you trust you to take it back to the 1940s

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (38:44.539)
I trust you to go back to what you used to do.

Adesoji Iginla (38:48.321)
You

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (38:53.155)
Yes, where we're gonna make sure that you can discriminate against who buys a home in a certain place. and by the way, banks where you can discriminate and continue with this redlining to ensure that certain places are Exactly. Okay, so

Adesoji Iginla (38:54.495)
Wink wink.

Adesoji Iginla (39:09.422)
state of where they are, they are, yeah.

Nitra (39:11.574)
And no oversight. they don't want... Nobody can tell

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (39:16.471)
No, no, no, no, no oversight. So I'm trying to hit on a number of things. So depending on who you are, you find where you fit in, right? maybe you are a veteran. Maybe you have family members or children even who are in the military. Now they're going to revise how they determine who is disabled and who gets any benefits, disability benefits. I happen to live near Fort Cavazos.

Adesoji Iginla (39:17.623)
No.

Nitra (39:25.141)
Bye.

Adesoji Iginla (39:38.21)
Hm? Benefits.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (39:44.355)
That will be devastating to a great number of people in my community. It gets better. They're not done. women say we're no longer going to fund head start because we really don't want children from disadvantaged backgrounds to get any kind of start at all. Right. So we're going to get rid of head starts, but we're also going to get rid of universal childcare. So

Adesoji Iginla (39:55.054)
You

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (40:12.217)
We're not trying to make it easier for women who are working outside of the home or parents working outside of the home to get childcare outside of the home. What we're going to do, and doesn't this sound really great? We're going to pay you to stay at home, but how much are they going to pay you? And ask me what happens to the cat ladies who don't have children? What happens to the stepmothers? What happens to the woman who has invested in her career, who has invested

Adesoji Iginla (40:27.394)
at home.

Marlon Ausby (40:40.803)
civic death civic death to the catlings

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (40:42.265)
Yes Has all yes, how's all of this school loan debt? But she can't go out and work because she's taking the job of a man who is taking care of his family and she needs to get home So, I mean I could go on but i'm going to be quiet so some other people can pull up some certain things but one other thing that i'm going to say And there's so much One of the things they want to do is to get rid. Okay, so here's the issue they

Nitra (41:05.6)
Yes.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (41:11.387)
the federal employees, their retirement system is too good. Can you imagine that they can work 30 years? Yes, they can work for 30 years and retire and they even get a cost of living increase in their pension. hell no, we want everybody to work till they die. So rather than figuring out how the private sector can come up to par so that people can actually have a living wage and be able to enjoy their old age, no.

Adesoji Iginla (41:16.096)
Yeah, yeah, You have to bring it in line.

Adesoji Iginla (41:26.082)
Can you imagine?

Adesoji Iginla (41:35.864)
Mm -mm.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (41:39.629)
We want to get rid of that retirement system for the federal government and we're going to do even better. We want to get rid of all the quote unquote career federal employees and we're just going to put in political appointees. You know what political appointees do? That looks like Russia. That means

Nitra (41:52.032)
Mm

Marlon Ausby (41:59.023)
Whatever the strong man say do.

Adesoji Iginla (42:02.914)
Yup, yup.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (42:03.301)
and just to make it even better.

Marlon Ausby (42:04.773)
Come get you out your house in the middle of the night if that's what he say do.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (42:08.283)
And just to make it even better, they want to abolish the whistleblower act. So if you are someone working in any of those federal agencies with a conscience and you see where they are about to go drop a bunch of lead in the water for certain communities so they can kill those people off, so they can go in there and mine their resources and you try to tell your butt with the DOJ that has now been recognized is going to be literally lynched.

Nitra (42:33.042)
on the disk.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (42:37.551)
And there is nothing you or anybody can do about it because the whistle blow was asked up. Do I need to continue on how diabolical this thing is?

Adesoji Iginla (42:43.19)
Yeah, but where does the DOJ now sit? You've not said that

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (42:49.075)
the DOJ is the president's arm to do whatever the president wants. They are supposed to advance the agenda of the president. Not the constitution. Yes. Go ahead, Marlon.

Nitra (42:53.586)
Right. Right.

Marlon Ausby (43:01.517)
and an army of prosecutors.

Now I was just saying the DOJ, that's the president's army of prosecutors, but they should be working in the interests of the American people because that's what the president is supposed to be doing. But this is in theory, right?

Adesoji Iginla (43:21.272)
Yeah, but that's the key phrase in the interest of the American people.

Nitra (43:27.23)
Yeah, but they make it clear that it's conservative people. they are in the language, they carve out who this government is going to protect. I also wanna bring up, I have said about the retirement system, don't forget it's retroactive. So if you already retired, they still wanna go back. Don't think you're

Adesoji Iginla (43:51.778)
Yeah.

Nitra (43:57.366)
They wanna go back and get your retirement money that you've already retired, you put in to work, not the ones who on the precipice of retirement. They wanna go back to the 85, 90 year old man who is sitting up just chilling on his thinking about the old days. They gonna snatch him from wherever he at and take his retirement from

Adesoji Iginla (44:00.717)
Mm -hmm.

Adesoji Iginla (44:06.204)
Mm!

Adesoji Iginla (44:13.518)
was like, what are doing? Get back to work.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (44:20.068)
And Mitra, they better not hope that they're gonna rely on Social Security either because that's gonna be gone.

Adesoji Iginla (44:27.342)
Exactly.

Nitra (44:28.054)
They take that away too. No, that's that's completely gone. They

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (44:34.793)
It is very serious business, yes.

Nitra (44:37.51)
this, yeah, they are, are literate. This document does not protect the elders and it does not protect the children. It's, it goes at the most vulnerable and it also makes the least vulnerable, culpable for going after the most vulnerable. We're in it too. Like they make us where in this document.

Adesoji Iginla (44:51.512)
Yeah.

Nitra (45:04.822)
You're gonna hate old people and you're gonna hate kids because they don't produce they don't do you know, this is what and and the the weird thing about this is in No, you pro family after until 65 because after 65 you can't work you're not

Marlon Ausby (45:09.007)
He he

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (45:16.347)
We're pro family. We're pro family. What are you talking about?

Marlon Ausby (45:24.835)
Well, yes, but remember family for them means, you know, this unit where the man is at the head, you know, and making all the decisions

Adesoji Iginla (45:33.571)
Mm -hmm.

Nitra (45:36.175)
But grandpa not. They kicking out grandpa.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (45:39.035)
Only if she's not disabled because we're also pulling all the laws that assist anybody who is disabled as well because that's

Nitra (45:47.412)
Right, they also just ID the Individual Disabilities Act, but this, the thing in Nazi Germany, the way Hitler arise or whatever, how he rose to power, in the beginning, Hitler went after disabled people and old people. His brown shirts crew, they were going around rounding

old people and disabled people. It started off as disabled people, people that are differently abled. may have Down syndrome. They may have some type of developmental disorder. He was going after them, rounding them up and killing them or putting them in camps, technically death camps. Then he went after the elderly people, the most vulnerable.

Adesoji Iginla (46:42.945)
Mmm.

Nitra (46:46.858)
These are the people who can't protect themselves. They can't fight back. the problem with why it progressed in a way that it did was because somebody saw that and they didn't say nothing. So you had a lot of people seeing and knowing that disabled people are getting rounded up and being abused, killed, whatever.

and they're not saying nothing about it. And this document, it does that. It says, old people are not valuable to us. Kids are not valuable to us. They're not worth protecting until they are of working age or whatever. it is, they say, they talk about families in here, but then like we said, they contradict because then they,

They completely throw their grandfathers and great grandfathers right under the bus. Because it's like, I know these people have old people. Why are you taking their pensions away? At some point, it's going to touch their families. And they don't care. They don't care that it's going to get to them.

Marlon Ausby (48:05.669)
Well, think they look at stuff like that that they most certainly should be concerned with. And I think they think, you know, not us, that he going to do that to them. You know, I'm serious. I'm serious. That could be the only way, you know, you could go along with something like that. And then again, they're not reading this like that. You know, they're not reading this, you know.

Adesoji Iginla (48:19.214)
Hmm

Marlon Ausby (48:36.387)
And again, I'm more impressed with the collaborative scope of the document versus the substance of the document. Because anybody who take a serious look at this, me with my military background, went straight to section two. And he rolls out four priorities, right? This guy Chris Miller that writes.

Adesoji Iginla (48:46.113)
You

Adesoji Iginla (48:52.91)
Mm -hmm.

Adesoji Iginla (49:06.712)
Section two.

Marlon Ausby (49:06.821)
that writes, yeah, well, chapter four in section two, the common defense, well, the Department of Defense. priority number one is reestablish a culture of command accountability, right? Non -politization and war fighting focus. So, and I'm going to say this, right? I'm finna say this. the army, the military is not perfect, right? But when that,

When Ms. Gian died down there at Fort Hood, right? It got the new name Fort Cavazos. But when she died, you know who lost their job? The three star, right? Now for her, it's hard to quantify how far away they are in connection to each other, right? In the command structure. But that sounds like accountability to

Adesoji Iginla (49:58.828)
in the comment section.

Marlon Ausby (50:05.403)
You know what mean? do they pay for everything that happens? Do people get swept under the rug? Was that nationalized? Yes. But I can tell you as somebody who did 21 years, saw, I've seen commanders get relieved for social media posts. I've seen them get relieved for just being seen out to lunch too many times, you know, with somebody that was, you know, the difference in rank was too far. And when it come to non -politics,

you know, non -politization. know, General Milley, he got seen out there with Trump with the upside down Bible. You know, he came on there and he apologized, which I think that's a reason why the army gets so much smoke compared to the other branches because he's, know, General Milley come out of the army, but when he's the sect death, he comes out and apologizes and say, look, I shouldn't have been there. I'm in the military. We're not political, right? And he's been a pariah ever since.

And then the third thing in this number one priority is war fighting focus. If the military is not, I would love to know what the military, cause they don't say it in here, but I would love to know what the military is focused on if it's not war fighting.

Nitra (51:17.994)
Right, right now, right? So like, why would it, so it wouldn't need to change because that's what it does already. But I think it's more about what war. I don't think there, I think the focus is still gonna stay on war, but war with who, you know? And I think it's gonna go back to that, you know, that allegiance type thing.

who is gonna pledge allegiance to this and who's gonna be against it? And that's what they, the focus is gonna be. The domestic terrorist is going to be people who are against this document, which to me

Marlon Ausby (52:07.225)
Yeah, if you didn't know any better when you read through section two, you would think that the military has ran up in the White House three, four times over the course of the nation's history. You know what I mean? like, and it's and it's never even been that we've never even come close to that. You know, you know, the military is a is a pretty vicious, you know, pet dog that the president gets to sit on on whoever across the globe.

but the military has never come close to know, biting the hand that feeds it, you know. If you can't say anything about the military, that's one thing like that you can say. I also was little, that was crazy, the Department of Homeland Security section, like the chapters that dealt with Department of Homeland Security, like they are so obsessed with the border, like they won't,

Adesoji Iginla (52:43.138)
Yeah,

Marlon Ausby (53:06.319)
They want ICE, ICE is not even that big of a, it's not big when you look at the Department of Homeland Security, when you look at how it's arrayed out there, Border Patrol, they want ICE to be the premier organization. They want Secret Service, they want Secret Service to be absorbed in the ICE if they're not operating in the NCR.

Adesoji Iginla (53:15.107)
Mm.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (53:18.499)
Somali.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (53:22.563)
So marvelous.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (53:29.605)
So Marlon, the question is why? The question is why? Because if you have the borders,

Nitra (53:32.234)
Yeah, I was gonna say that.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (53:40.916)
Let's use their worst case scenario that are porous and there are all of these people coming in. Who are the people coming in in their estimation? They are the undesirables, which is why they're saying increase visa application fees and fast track it for those who can pay extra. So who are the people who typically have more of the resources to pay extra?

Marlon Ausby (53:52.995)
unwashed.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (54:06.541)
So that I know you're here in Texas, but right here in Texas, the big issue is, hey, the browning of Texas and how do we reverse it? Let's get more white women having babies and let's get as many immigrants as we can, black and brown immigrants out of the country. So what this document is also proposing is to end birthright citizenship.

And again, talk about retroactive measures. Be able to go back and say, yeah, so you're not a citizen anymore, so we get to deport you from our shores. And that whitens the community a little bit more. And then close the borders and only ensure that certain types of people come in. Of course, if you're a human being who breathes, drinks, water, eats, you should be concerned that what they're saying is that the federal government should

every instance, get rid of anything, any research to do with climate change. We're going to just act like it doesn't exist. And if there's any funding that the federal government is putting towards climate change research or any regular regulations to help protect the environment, we want them done away with because we're just about capitalism and let's go in.

Extract whatever we want wherever we want however, we want it. Let's also look at some some other issues that they have here They want to make sure that the words gender gender equality gender equity gender aware gender sense sensitive any references to abortion or reproductive health any references to sexual and reproductive rights Be completely stricken from every government

document websites Everything that you do we do not want to dope that terminology in anything at all Then you earlier both of you Marlon and nitra you spoke and and and so do you spoke to the doublespeak? I just want to read this one section for our listeners This is on page 265. So if you came in late, I actually printed the whole thing Right, okay

Adesoji Iginla (56:01.336)
document.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (56:30.871)
Because sometimes people need to see this stuff and not just it's a pdf online. Okay, so this is what they

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (56:39.949)
The Bureau, talking about focusing on holistic healthcare and support for women, children, and families. The Bureau should implement a request for application for resilient families.

that harvests collaborative funds from siloed programs and makes individuals and the family not diseases or conditions, the true focus of intervention. So I can't come and say there is a practice that is affecting our community. There is an issue with the quality of education. There's an issue with the quality of healthcare or water.

in our area because that is a disease or condition. We're not gonna address that, but you can come in as individual and say, well, I didn't get clean water. Tell me how efficient that is and tell me how that really helps families.

Marlon Ausby (57:37.519)
Yeah, public works, public health, it's all cast to the wayside,

Nitra (57:38.134)
And they use resilience and they use it as, it's like you get a prize for being resilient. But the thing is, it's like, why do we have resilience? That's not something that, somebody is fighting.

Adesoji Iginla (57:53.678)
You

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (57:54.809)
while we're killing you.

Nitra (58:05.482)
you know, for basically their lives just because they come out good on the end doesn't mean that it was okay that they were fighting for their life. And they're saying like, yeah, so if you're resilient, that's good. It's like, no, we should be getting rid of things like that. The things that caused them to be in the situation where they have to show resilience. And this to

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (58:30.915)
No, you should be more resilient. And if you're LGBTQIA or adjacent and whatever, you don't deserve to live. Yeah.

Marlon Ausby (58:37.927)
You dead. You dead. You dead.

Nitra (58:40.798)
Well, if you live, you're resilient.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (58:44.543)
Yeah, I guess so also We're going to monitor pregnancies. I recently told my daughters. go ahead and delete that app that you use in tracking your menstrual cycle Because I don't know who that information is being fed to but anyway, they're gonna monitor pregnancies They're going to restrict birth control. I think they're going after everything against except condoms They're banning abortion

Adesoji Iginla (58:50.904)
Yeah?

Nitra (58:52.896)
Mm -hmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (59:12.929)
And they're banning IVF as well. My nephew was born via IVF. Some of you may have experienced the absolute agony

Adesoji Iginla (59:23.202)
wanting a child and nuts.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (59:24.569)
Wanting a child and not being able to have one. I've experienced former scarages I know what that thing is like and for these people who are not even Physicians, I mean so much for the American people having a right to their own freedom and their own autonomy But you're going to tell people what they can and cannot do with their bodies. It goes it goes further, right? They want to stop, you know, so with the Affordable Care Act We now came to a place where if you had pre -existing conditions

The insurance company still had to cover you. Well, they want to roll that back So if you have any pre -existing condition, please die or figure out how to be resilient, right? They want they want to stop overtime pay they have a whole section on why unions are bad and Particularly the federal government should not allow any federal employees to be unionized

Marlon Ausby (01:00:00.699)
course.

Nitra (01:00:06.998)
Right.

Adesoji Iginla (01:00:16.365)
Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (01:00:21.684)
unionized

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:00:22.619)
Have a whole piece of information on getting rid of just about every social program anything that is going to help uplift regular people so I don't know how these white folk against the guests maybe they're voting for their whiteness or Whichever black or brown people or women might be supporting this whether they're just ignorant willfully or not. And then with media and technology, I don't know if everybody anybody has ever read the book. 1984 I think

Marlon Ausby (01:00:53.066)
George Orwell.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:00:53.443)
And how they created agencies with titles that did the exact opposite of what the heading would would would, you know, make you believe anyway in terms of media and technology, this project outlines a vision for controlling the media, controlling technology to align with their own values. And essentially you don't do what we say. We shut you down. And so once you have.

control over all those mechanisms, you can, and then of course you have control over the schools and what is and isn't allowed to be taught in the schools. It's so easy to program people to do exactly what it is that you would want them to do. And we could go on and I guess we will, but this document is very dangerous to every living human being.

Adesoji Iginla (01:01:43.47)
There is, I mean, okay, for any, I just want to read this part. For any society to thrive, there must be an element of justice running through or crossing through the veins of such a society. And in the general welfare section three, page 284, the bottom paragraph, it says, if there's another department that has gone off the rails like HHS during the Obama and Biden administration,

It is the once proud Department of Justice, the DOJ. As a former counselor to the Attorney General, Gene Hampton, writes in chapter 17, the department has a long noble history. Edmund Ralph Randolph, the first Attorney General, took office the same year as President Washington. This is another thing that runs through the document, this idea of looking back to past presidents and eulogizing

regardless of what the kind of precedents they wear. And then he comes here, which is yes. And this is where it gets

Marlon Ausby (01:02:45.943)
reinvention.

Adesoji Iginla (01:02:52.696)
The current attorney general, Mary Garland, has turned the DOJ resulting in a politically motivated viewpoint based prosecution, rings any bell, of political enemies and indifference to the crimes of political allies, has made the department a threat to the Republic. The most important thing for the next attorney general to do is to refocus the department on its core functions.

of protecting public safety and defending the rule of law while restoring its values of independence, impartiality, honesty, integrity, respect, and excellence. I want to highlight the bit. At least, I did that in here. This core function of protecting public safety and defending the rule of law. Does that sound familiar?

Marlon Ausby (01:03:50.875)
I mean, that's always the headline. That's, euphemisms, right? It's euphemistic language, right? We're for freedom, except when it comes to women's bodily autonomy, right? We're pro -life, the whole death penalty thing. Personal freedom, it's, again.

Adesoji Iginla (01:03:59.059)
Dude.

Adesoji Iginla (01:04:08.781)
Yep.

Adesoji Iginla (01:04:13.741)
Mm -hmm.

Marlon Ausby (01:04:19.771)
They're talking to a specific crowd and we're not, yeah, we're not, but we're not included. We're not included in that unless we wanna buy into that worldview. So I think, know.

Adesoji Iginla (01:04:24.578)
with a big bull horn.

Yep, yep, yep.

Adesoji Iginla (01:04:36.118)
Where are we?

Nitra (01:04:37.31)
In the same fashion, I mean, in that same area, they go into the sort of, they sort of explain the agencies and what they would prefer them to do. But going off of what Marlon said, just a little bit down from where Adesadji just read.

They talk about the Secretary of Education and I'm to quote what they say. Short of this, the Secretary of Education should insist that the department serve parents and American ideals, not advocates, but whose message is that children can choose their own sex, that America is systemically racist, that math itself is racist.

and that Martin Luther King Jr. idea of a colorblind society should be rejected in favor of reinstating a color conscious society. They invoke our people, they do this all the time. This is totally gaslighting. But they then go, now this is a department that exists already. They're saying they want the Department of Education

Adesoji Iginla (01:05:34.534)
Yeah

Adesoji Iginla (01:05:54.2)
Ahem.

Nitra (01:05:59.304)
allow parents to do whatever the hell they want, but here are the restrictions to what the parents cannot do. They cannot let their kids choose their own sex. They can't talk about the education system being systemically racist. it's basically what we saying that it is, not what you're experiencing, it's what we saying.

This is a lot of what is happening in this document because they say this, right? They say that it's to serve the parents and the parents should have the freedom, but then they also go down further and limits how education is supposed to be implemented in this country based on the

Marlon Ausby (01:06:53.531)
Now, if you would have just kept going to the next sentence, right? He said the next head of this department would have a lot to do, hopefully culminating in the closure, in the closure, in the department's closure. you know, once we like hollow this thing out, then we'll shut it down, right? And then,

Nitra (01:07:06.966)
Yeah.

Marlon Ausby (01:07:20.729)
We'll proceed with the the salutary restoration of educational control to states, localities and parents.

Adesoji Iginla (01:07:25.652)
states.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:07:27.907)
And when and where and where have we heard this language before we're not getting rid of abortion It's right Yeah, but the states are just rattling it so they want to get rid of Pell Grant For those of us. I was I was a Pell Grant child. Thank God. They want to They want to reverse any of you who have rejoiced over getting your school loans

Marlon Ausby (01:07:33.157)
This is, this is, this is, is, yep.

Nitra (01:07:34.308)
Nitra (01:07:42.41)
Yep, that's in there

Nitra (01:07:46.996)
Me too.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:07:56.431)
forgiving your school loan debt forgiven you might want to just open an account and just keep paying what you used to pay into that account just in case because if we don't go out and vote right you aren't going to get a bill and that bill is going to say you owe x y and z dollars and you can tack it on to what you already have to pay and you got this much time to pay it back and then

Nitra (01:08:04.821)
Right?

And remember retroactive, because they might.

Adesoji Iginla (01:08:20.017)
You

Nitra (01:08:22.55)
And they have retroactive, remember, they gonna go back.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:08:26.107)
Now here's the other thing talking about the doublespeak this is on the bottom of page 322 the title says safeguarding civil rights, so pay attention Enforcement of civil rights should be based on a proper understanding of those laws now we can get into the legal wings here and Understand how laws have been interpreted and misinterpreted. So when you say a proper understanding of those

Remember that they are now using the same laws that we used to fight segregation are now being used against us. And that's how they are now shutting down, quote unquote, affirmative action. You cannot look at race when you are considering a person for college or so on and so forth. So they go on to say, enforcement of civil rights should be based on a proper understanding of those laws.

Marlon Ausby (01:08:56.037)
subjective

Nitra (01:09:04.501)
Yes.

Adesoji Iginla (01:09:08.105)
action.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:09:20.407)
rejecting gender ideology so you can't talk about you know, then you gender races is sorry gender inequity any of that and rejecting critical race theory so don't come here with that mess of There has been a disparate impact on people from so and so that's critical race there So tell me exactly how are you going to safeguard civil rights and whose civil rights are you going to safeguard? when you basically said

Nitra (01:09:35.158)
Thank you.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:09:49.605)
You can't talk race, can't talk gender.

Nitra (01:09:52.786)
But we just said that it was freedom, right? They just said that it was freedom for parents, except for if it's dealing with race and sexual identity. It's completely, and then they also make sure that they put in that it has to be, you have to be of one with conservative values. They use the language American exceptionalism.

So that they they're putting it in in plain language No, you can't be black and you you have to be a conservative You basically have to be them swine Well, you got to be Tim Scott I Mean you can't You can't be a black person like they they're completely erasing the the

Marlon Ausby (01:10:22.66)
They thought of

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:10:34.927)
Whatever that means.

Adesoji Iginla (01:10:47.5)
Order Ben Carson.

Nitra (01:10:52.36)
our experiences that's perpetrated by them, by the way. But, and we're just gonna wipe the slate clean as if none of that exists. But remember you have freedom. But I also, cause I have brought up these departments that they're taking away. One of them, now she mentioned the student loan, right? But they wanna get rid

They just want to completely dismantle the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Just completely get rid of it. They don't want nothing. Now, this bureau, here's a few things.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:11:27.823)
Yes. Yes.

Marlon Ausby (01:11:32.091)
How else are we going to get the carcinogenians in your food and in your water and all of that? You know, we don't need an agency like that getting in the way, you know.

Adesoji Iginla (01:11:40.376)
you

Nitra (01:11:44.18)
Now this is what this kind of ties into what I was talking about. Now the Consumer Protection Finance Bureau, they are the ones that oversee mortgage and housing protection, credit card and loan transparency, debt collection practices, consumer education and financial literacy. They handle consumer complaints, student loans, and overdraft fees and bank account management. That is what the consumer

finance protection bureau Does in this country? so when We got to get them little checks in the mail that say hey, there was a class action lawsuit and so -and -so owe you some money because they They overcharged you with overdraft fees or whatever the everyday regular person knows about overdraft fees You've seen them. Okay now they're saying Ain't no limit to it no

They don't, cause they don't want an oversight over who, how the banks deal with you and deal with your money. They, they don't want oversight on how the bank is to deal with your money, but then they don't want oversight on how the bank takes your money

Marlon Ausby (01:13:00.379)
They totally against consumer advocacy on every level.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:13:04.323)
on every class.

Nitra (01:13:04.822)
No protections for us at all whatsoever. So those overdraft fees that was $35, they went to $20, $25, and they went down to, okay, imagine without this Consumer Finance Protection Bureau, the overdraft fees can be $150. What about if the overdraft fee is the exact amount of the transaction that we didn't pay or that we paid for

Adesoji Iginla (01:13:05.112)
Yep, yep, yep.

Nitra (01:13:32.022)
So let's say this was your mortgage payment and you were short $5 and it was $1 ,000. What else charge you $1 ,000 overdraft fee just for paying your $1 ,000 check? They can do it because there's no one to say that they can't and there's no oversight over who can do it. I went to the extreme with a mortgage payment and a high amount like $1 ,000 because

I think people need to hear it on that level because they're giving the power to the banks. The banks don't care that you don't have $1 ,000. The banks don't care about that. The bank knows that you'll get a direct deposit and they're gonna charge you that overdraft fee, whether it's $1 ,000 or if it's $50 or whatever. They know for a fact

It's probably going to be difficult for you to go and change that bank account to stop that direct deposit. So what are we going to do? We can get that thousand dollars real quick. Even if we just get one, that's enough for the banks. I worked at a bank and I was like, well, overdraft and this is me telling my manager. I was like, overdraft fees don't, don't pay the banks. don't, the banks are sustained through overdraft fees.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:14:57.333)
yes they are!

Nitra (01:14:57.756)
And she told me she is she told me she say but they are I say what now what if everybody

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:15:03.247)
Yes, they are. That is a huge part of their profit making.

Nitra (01:15:07.678)
He told me that she said, said, what if everybody's, you know, just stop getting overdraft fees? She said, they'll figure out a way. it's, it's not as if, so, so you have no protections. Some of these government agencies that are in place, they actually do protect us. We just go about our business, not knowing that there is someone or

mechanism there that's protecting us and protecting our little dollars. What if they give the banks are now allowed to garnish your wages? They don't have to go through your bank account. They could just take your paycheck. There's nothing that's stopping them from being able to do this. They actually mentioned something going as far as being able to garnish wages to collect

Marlon Ausby (01:15:54.479)
agencies did

Nitra (01:16:04.864)
They don't care. They don't want any type of oversight on them. They don't want any protections. Like Marlon said, no consumer protection agency at all whatsoever.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:16:18.171)
Let's talk a little bit more staying on education as well. Page 350. Over a 10 -year period, the federal spending should be phased out and states should assume decision -making control over how to provide a quality education to children from low -income families. See, the wealthy are gonna be okay.

In texas whenever we need to cut the budget or balance the budget They they they cut they cut education So now we're going to phase out any kind of oversight. We saw what happened with election laws the minute That the supreme court said you no longer have to have pre -clearance To change your election laws because we think everything is okay now What did the state start to do? They started to put back into

Nitra (01:16:46.998)
because it's.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:17:10.007)
Those laws that would make it harder for people to vote and so again here we see the same tactic this state rights piece so just give it to the states and The states will work in your best interest Meanwhile in a state like texas. We have these constitutional amendments and

Nitra (01:17:11.7)
Mm -hmm.

Adesoji Iginla (01:17:21.688)
everything will be okay.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:17:32.987)
On the average, the percentage of registered voters, eligible voters who go out and vote for constitutional amendments is under 20%. Sometimes it's less than 10%. And yet these are the people who are ultimately, because the rest of us aren't voting, are making the decisions that impact us all.

So again for anybody at all, you know, why are we going through what let me rephrase Why am I going through project 2025? Why did I bother to read every page of this document? Why did I spend the money that I spent to print it out? because Ignorance is not bliss

Nitra (01:17:51.69)
Mm -hmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:18:10.963)
And when you know better, you hopefully will do better. And we have a real existential threat against every aspect of our livelihoods as we know it, even the very concept of America. Because if you get to a point where the president has the power to fire all of these federal employees and just put in yes men and women,

And they are making the decisions that impact the entire nation and even how America stands globally. The states are also copying the same thing and implementing these things. So you see it in Louisiana, you see it in North Carolina, of course you see it in Texas, you see it in Florida. So this is for me, reading this and sharing this is a call to action for us all. You cannot bury your head in the sand.

You cannot hope that somebody else is going to come and wage this battle on your behalf. You cannot trust that the government is going to do right by you. Because if we understand history, right after Reconstruction, Black people were creating their own businesses. had townships that were thriving. We were building schools and so on and so forth. We were electing Black people into all manner of office.

And by 1877, these people were like, nah, these Negroes are, they have too much power. They're running amok here. We got to reel them in. And just like that, the Jim Crow and Jane Crow laws were gradually put in everywhere and recognized that it took us from the late 1870s all the way to 1964, 65.

Adesoji Iginla (01:19:37.56)
Too much.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:20:02.831)
to start regaining some of the rights we lost. And even that, when we talk about desegregating schools and providing equal opportunity for education in states like Texas, they were still under federal supervision well into the 1990s. So for people who are saying, we're not our ancestors, or this can't happen to us, yes, it can if we do nothing.

Nitra (01:20:18.804)
Yes.

Adesoji Iginla (01:20:25.068)
Hmm. Can. Yep.

Nitra (01:20:28.103)
it was.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:20:29.517)
And this affects everybody. It's not just one fringe group. They really have been equal opportunity in how they're going to go after everybody who is not white, male, and already wealthy, conservative, and connected.

Marlon Ausby (01:20:47.04)
And y 'all, mean, everybody, for people that's listening and just, you know, just as a, you know, just a point to make. Y 'all know a lot of gas was poured on a project like this during the Trump presidency when he was trying to do a lot of crazy stuff. And you had government workers that was like, no, you can't do that. And he's just like, no, why, you know. So you had a lot of GS, you had a lot of people, you

Adesoji Iginla (01:21:05.984)
Mmm.

Marlon Ausby (01:21:16.003)
on government scale that was stopping a lot of the stuff that he wanted to do. And this seems like an answer to that. Like, hey, we can fire those people. Because I think he probably was surprised when he was like, wait a minute, I can't fire these guys? I can't fire this GS -15. I can't fire this SES. So I think this is a clap back, so to speak. And again, think ever since Taraji

Pete Henson mentioned it, I feel like it reached a critical mass to where people who probably wouldn't be interested in a think tank and what a think tank publishes are being more interested in it. for people, think tanks don't walk around calling themselves think tanks, right? Just stick with the euphemisms.

Adesoji Iginla (01:22:09.698)
Yeah.

Marlon Ausby (01:22:12.741)
you know, these, they say, what they call a thing, something, and it's something else. They say I'm a policy advisor, right? I do policy advisement. You know, again, public -private partnerships, they'll say stuff like that. You know, so people, you know, you have to, you know, I would encourage everybody to keep reading and just, and find that language and tell your, you know, tell your family and your friends, you know, to get, to

are politically active, you know, inform a ballot, like break down a ballot where you live at and pass it out to your friends so people, because I hate to say it, but people are not going to do the work to figure. Some people may vote down ballot, you know what I mean? Some people may say, look, my decision making a little more nuanced than that. So help them out, you know, because it's one thing to vote down the ballot. It's another thing when you look at your school board and you look at people that may not have a political

But it's up to us to kind of, people who are politically engaged, politically aware, to do things like that and leverage social media. We're doing it right now. YouTube is the S tier social media platform in the world. So we're on there. But for people that's on Facebook, people that's on Instagram, Twitter, all of that, take what you can from this and spread it. Spread it because I'm telling you.

It may just be that one retweet. It may just be that one Instagram story. You know what I mean? That makes somebody go and register to vote. So again, you know, it's more about the response to this.

Adesoji Iginla (01:23:48.494)
I mean, speaking of taking the reins of government, there's a part on page 27 where it says, the White House counsel, speaking of people who checked the president, who checked Trump while he was in office, the White House counsel cannot serve as a finishing school to credentials the next set of white shoe law firm attorneys or federal judges in waiting.

to cabin their opinions for fear their elite credentials would be tarnished through a policy disagreement. You see? Rather, it should function more as an activist, an entico plaintiff for the president, whose chief client is the administration. The president should choose a White House counsel who is well versed in the Constitution, the inner workings of Congress.

effectively just telling you, listen, how can you bend the rule so that the president can get his way? It's not about the people. Again, it's a question of language. And speaking of language, in the entire document, talking about keywords, the word conservative appears 828 times. The word president appears

Nitra (01:25:07.135)
and hope.

Marlon Ausby (01:25:12.229)
Mm -hmm.

Adesoji Iginla (01:25:16.558)
508 times effectively telling you what this document is about, who it is geared for. We've given you a mandate for the American president. And right now, this is what we're working with. This is our blueprint for capturing power. And anybody that gets in the way goes back to that quote I started with.

It can be a bloodless revolution if the left allows it. So one has to be conversant, just like Marlon is saying, that you take, it could be two lines, it could be three, it could be five, it could be 10. But you have to do your utmost best to ensure that this document does not see the light of

in implementation. Because if it does, Nitra said it earlier about what happened in the 1930s in Germany. This is essentially Mein Kampf, but written in English.

Nitra (01:26:18.218)
Thank

Marlon Ausby (01:26:31.899)
Mmm. Mmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:26:34.789)
But I would say this for people who read this document that these folk have been savvy enough though to sandwich some of their really diabolical ideas and anti -human ideas in language that one could read and say, but this sounds like a great idea. Like, what's wrong with that? It's not all bad. You know, and so.

Nitra (01:26:53.226)
Yes.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:26:57.243)
going to use an example that I cannot remember who used this example years ago that I heard. But she said, if I make some brownies for you, and if anybody who knows what brownies are, they're chocolate, they're usually dark, you know, and I put just a little bit of human doo -doo in it, just a little, not a lot, is there a problem with the brownies? You see what I'm saying?

So most of us would say I don't want even a drop of human feces in my brownies. Most of us are not going to say, well, it's 99 % food. The feces isn't a big deal. And that is, think, what they've done here is that there are some, to a reasonable mind, some ideas they have in here that you'll say, yeah, of course we should cut back on inefficiencies. Of course we should promote families.

But then you got to go deeper and what do they mean by that? So for instance where they say here This data collection page 455 the cdc the cdc's abortion Surveillance and maternity mortality reporting systems are woefully inadequate when you add that to Places like texas that have passed laws where you can throw women in

Nitra (01:28:07.964)
yeah, wow.

Nitra (01:28:16.81)
years.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:28:26.459)
Then you see how dangerous this is. Why are you collecting this data? Is it to save lives or is it to go after people? There's so many other places. Let me look at this part. Page 462. The title is actually woke policies. Can you imagine? Under Francis Collins, NIH became so focused on the Me Too movement.

Marlon Ausby (01:28:35.599)
Hmm.

Adesoji Iginla (01:28:47.192)
work policies.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:28:54.861)
Really? What was the Me Too movement about? People who are saying, How dare you speak up against me?

Marlon Ausby (01:28:58.563)
Sexual harassment, sexual assault, yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (01:28:59.202)
sexual assaults,

Marlon Ausby (01:29:04.517)
How can you have too much focus on that? How can too much focus be a thing?

Adesoji Iginla (01:29:08.662)
What is too much focus?

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:29:08.975)
Okay, it said became so focused on the Me Too movement that it refused to sponsor scientific conferences unless there were a certain number of women panelists, which violates federal civil rights law against sex discrimination. Wait a second, but assaulting people and assaulting women, that doesn't violate, like what are you talking about?

Nitra (01:29:31.188)
Right. Right.

Adesoji Iginla (01:29:33.08)
Double speak, double speak, double speak.

Marlon Ausby (01:29:33.627)
double speak.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:29:36.683)
So it says this quota practice should be ended Never mind that you had a quota where a hundred percent of your presenters were white men Okay, but now this quarter practice should be ended and the NIH Office of Equity Diversity and Inclusion Which pushes such unlawful actions should be abolished because there's no good that that does it all NIH has been at the forefront in pushing junk gender science

Instead, it should fund studies into the short -term and long -term negative effects of cross -sex interventions, including affirmation, puberty blockers, cross -sex hormones, and surgeries, and the likelihood of desistance if young people are given counseling. It goes into that, and then it talks about there has been an uptick in the number of young people who are requesting surgery to kind of change their bodies.

particularly young girls is what they say. Why would they have a particular concern with young girls? Well, cause if you guys stop whatever causes you to reproduce, we can no longer control you. And so it goes on and on and on, remove restrictions on physician owned hospitals, but then they don't have a certain amount of oversight.

in certain States, cause we're giving the power back to the States in Texas. If you are going to sue for medical malpractice, you better have some deep pockets or you better have refutable proof. Otherwise, are just going to waste your money. And it goes on and on and on and on. and they talk about, we've got to help corporations make more money. We've got to take away the regulations and humanity simply does not matter.

Nitra (01:31:12.178)
It's so hard. Yeah.

Nitra (01:31:30.772)
And I want to add to the thing with abortion. They want to take away abortion, period. But in the document, is, they try and layer it in a way that makes you think that they are somehow empathetic to...

miscarriages or ectopic pregnancies or whatever. But they try, so in their language, they saying those type of abortions are not abortions. Those type of abortions have to be completely separate from someone who just wants to go and get an abortion. The thing with that is, it doesn't matter how you try

the reason for the procedure. The procedure is the same. This is what it is. They want to get rid of the, the pill abortion. Now the pill, if you have an atopic pregnancy or if you have a miscarriage, you, the pill, just, it helps the process, but that pill does not just help with the process of getting

removing it from ectopic

Marlon Ausby (01:32:56.441)
Terminating the pregnancy, yeah.

Nitra (01:32:59.624)
It also helps with regulating cycles. So you have people who don't have normal cycles and they have to go and take this same medication to regulate their cycles. Also, this is not just for adults. You have this, this is kids, some kids and they, this is, I read a study where it was leaked to the foods where, you know, children are getting their,

Adesoji Iginla (01:33:07.979)
Mm.

Nitra (01:33:27.99)
young girls are getting their cycles much much earlier than it was before. So them having getting those cycles that young, the cycles are not regular. So they need a type of medication that uses the same type of chemical structure as the abortion pill to help regulate their cycles. They wanna get rid of that. So this like you have to see it's not

because they go into it further. It's not just abortion. They're actually going after women's health. this is just, so women's health is totally separate from just overall general health. This, there's, you need specialized people to actually treat women for certain things because of course we don't have the same things

that a male has. But if you're a male writing this, you don't give a shit. You don't have any, you don't have a uterus. You don't have, you know, tubes or you don't have any of that. So you don't care that this has to be specialized for women. They don't want that. So now you, that's you, you don't have those doctors that specialize in the care of women.

Adesoji Iginla (01:34:37.515)
What?

Nitra (01:34:53.962)
You no longer have those. Then you have where there's no oversight on the doctors that they want it to be, because it's not like, it's OBGYN stuff. No, the doctors that they want it to be, there's no oversight on them. So imagine who gets the worst part of it. Also with this, because they go into the gender affirming care and all of this, they go into this a

They actually sort of, they try to mesh gender affirming care with child pornography. They put those together. It's like they're one in the same, but while telling you that you need to separate something else, but then they join something like gender affirming care and child pornography.

Marlon Ausby (01:35:37.801)
Yep.

Adesoji Iginla (01:35:45.996)
Thank you.

Nitra (01:35:50.752)
So they go after that saying like, no, this is gonna help get rid of child pornography by dealing with the genitals of people. Now I wanna go to something that's recently in the, I wanna connect it to something that's recently in the news. They had this thing where they were talking about this female boxer. This is a woman, she's a woman boxer. And there's been nothing

hatred and just homophobia. I don't even know what it is when it's, you know, when it's not about gayness, when it's about gender. I don't know if that's that's homophobia, but whatever it is, it's hatred towards a group of people that they think is, you know, not normal. But the one thing that we have to, we have to make note

women of color is always the ones who are accused of being more manly or appearing manly, anything like that. And think about this in education, cause it goes back to education. They look at, so imagine these young girls, this is gonna go, they're gonna be directed at,

Marlon Ausby (01:37:04.599)
It's a slippery slope. It's a slippery slope.

Nitra (01:37:18.836)
young black girls and because us inherently they look at black women as if we are, you know, somehow, you know, less feminine. So this woman is just being treated like this just because of appearance only. So imagine this being in your public schools. They're saying no gender affirming care.

But how is it that they're gonna determine if this child is getting gender affirming care or not? Well, we're gonna check the kid. Now who's gonna sign up for that job? Who's signing up for the job to check children's genitals?

If you ask me, I think it's the predators that's gonna sign up for the jobs. So you're not keeping your kids safe from this ideology of transgender. You're actually putting your kids in more danger because now they have free reigns to do whatever they want within your schools. Remember how I had just said how they're gonna separate how private schools

how they oversee private school versus public school.

Adesoji Iginla (01:38:33.295)
Run.

Marlon Ausby (01:38:34.971)
Yeah, they won't be subject to most of any of this stuff.

Nitra (01:38:38.792)
to the same thing. Exactly. So meaning that's a class issue. So who are they going to? Now who's going to be looking after these kids who, if whoever this person is that signs up for the job to say, I want to make sure that girls are girls and boys are boys. Who's going to be, who's going to have the oversight over that person? And you sending your kids to school saying, I don't want my kid to go to school

someone who doesn't know what their gender is, but yet you have someone in the school that's checking the genital of normal, regular kids in your language. That's normal.

Marlon Ausby (01:39:17.945)
And like you said, black girls will be overrepresented when it comes to the apprehension or the suspected apprehension, prosecution of these policies. They're going to be like, I don't know about that one right there. It's not going to happen to little Jenny, little Jane.

Nitra (01:39:37.864)
It's not gonna happen to a white girl, but remember, not just black girls, probably Hispanics, people of color is the ones who's gonna get the worst part of it. Why? Because they're going off of European standards of beauty. So for us, now some of us, we may look at them and be like, you don't look, you know, womanly to me, but for them, the lens that they have,

is European standards. So if you have these features of black women or women of color, to them that's more manly. So now you are now being subject to having your genitals checked and your medical care, your medical treatment is now gonna be tracked by whoever because this is not just for kids. think the

most important part of it is that they wanna do this to kids, but they also wanna attract women, grown women. They wanna be able to make sure that you are not getting abortions and you're not getting gender affirming care, which to me is just, wow. I have other thoughts about that. They didn't say anything about plastic surgery. Let me just say that. They said no gender affirming care.

Marlon Ausby (01:41:00.729)
I'm go.

Nitra (01:41:02.27)
yet you can get your ass and titties done. To me, there's something wrong with that. Is that not gender affirming? If I'm getting bigger breasts? That is gender affirming, right? That's what it is. But they don't want that. They only wanna go after the others that they call them, the quote unquote others. This is the people that we deal with, which tells

Marlon Ausby (01:41:12.273)
It is. It is. It is.

Adesoji Iginla (01:41:27.545)
I'm

Nitra (01:41:30.506)
that the goalpost is gonna move every time. And when it's not for them, they gonna move it, they gonna change it. When it's not working out for them, that's when they gonna come in and say, you know what, better yet, you know what, if you have, if your second toe is bigger than your big toe, we going after you. That's how we gonna do it. It's gonna change every time. So you can't put your trust into people like this who will put together this document.

But people with these type of thought processes, because it doesn't stop here. This is where it starts, and then it just gets worse and worse and worse. And I think that's what people need to go to the extreme in your mind. When you hear the simplest thing, go to the extreme. What's the worst that they can do with this law? That's what I do in everything. When I see these draconian type laws,

I want to see the worst part. What's the worst thing that they could do with this? And to me, it's putting a predator in the school, checking the genitals of kids because they saying that being transgender is somehow a disease or something.

Marlon Ausby (01:42:44.611)
I even thought I ain't even look at it from that from that angle, but that's that's crazy That is crazy cuz Chris cuz that's cuz that's what cuz that is what's encased in there. It is

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:42:48.835)
Nietzsche reminds me, wow.

Nitra (01:42:53.758)
It is. It's in there. Go to the extreme.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:42:55.906)
Well, let's let's let's let's continue with just again, we're not gonna get through 922 pages of this this document But you know one of the things that America used to I thought used to pride itself on was this concept of separation of church and states and with their documents of thought from Thomas Jefferson to James Madison to George Washington

Adesoji Iginla (01:43:03.278)
Obviously not.

Nitra (01:43:04.47)
no.

Marlon Ausby (01:43:14.01)
my goodness.

Marlon Ausby (01:43:19.833)
Why Jesus didn't answer the chat?

Adesoji Iginla (01:43:22.101)
Hahaha!

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:43:23.579)
You all the reasons that there should be a wall between the states and the church on page 481 Talking about the Department of Health and Human Services and there's actually so much that I could go through with this because it gets into teen pregnancy prevent prevention and Taking money for child welfare and using that to teach healthy Relationships which again on its face sounds like great Except you're not providing additional funds for this new thing that you want to

you're going to extract funds from people that are already needed for real, you know, like to put food on their table and all of that. They also want where if, you know, right now in a lot of states, and I think it's federally mandated, if you

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:44:10.179)
If you're getting paid, you know, if you get any check from the government, TANF, those kinds of things, there is a work requirement that is, you know, that is added to it, right? Some states will waive that work requirement for single parents who have children under the age of six. But what they are now saying is that even if you get food stamps, you should also have a work requirement tied to

We need to go back and think about who are the people that get food stamps. It's really not just families with young children. You also have elders. You also have people on disability, all of that kind of stuff. And so you're now going to impose this additional barrier for them just to get food stamps. I mean, food stamps is so regulated. You can't even get healthy food with food stamps in a lot of places. They want you to get the junk food. And I don't know if some of you remember this.

Adesoji Iginla (01:44:43.946)
Delicious.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:45:05.525)
Trump for a second floated the idea of You can no longer just go to the grocery stores and get your food with your food stamps They were going to have contractors That will send out what they determine should come to you, which would be all canned food cooked foods and processed foods Directly to you, which you know, it's going to be contractors that were his friends. But anyway, so something to pay attention to but

Nitra (01:45:14.4)
So, again.

Nitra (01:45:22.337)
yeah,

Nitra (01:45:28.278)
this week.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:45:31.099)
In addition to that on page 481, this is what they say when we talk about separation of church and state they said Protect faith -based grant recipients from religious liberty violations and maintain a biblically based Social science reinforced definition of marriage and family if we're talking about separation of church and states and they're all different kinds of religions

Adesoji Iginla (01:45:56.186)
Mmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:46:00.811)
What makes your definition the one that has to be imposed on everybody even as you are saying protect faith -based which is broad Grant recipients from religious liberty violations, but you are really going to say but if you don't define your religion in this way You don't fit in and and and then I guess you lose your violations. So There's so much. like I said earlier,

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:46:31.757)
In terms of good stuff that is in here, they're talking about promoting father involvement. And I hear a lot of black men jumping on this bandwagon. know, welfare started and the black woman kicked the black man out of the home because she took the check over the black man and so on and so forth. And I'm not going to today argue, whether there are black women who have said, yeah, I want to check over a man. I, I know very few, if any, that, that made that determination.

Nitra (01:46:40.664)
I was.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:47:01.867)
But we do know that we would like to see more of our black men actively involved in their children's lives Whether you live in the home or not And so on the one hand you can look at this and say wow They want to encourage parents, especially fathers to engage with their children but then it's all the other pieces that they put in there and how they're tracking and also how they're defining what women are allowed and are not allowed to do and so

And if you go through this document, so, I don't know if you ran this through the, your system, how many times they mentioned Trump, although they say this is not a document tied to a particular president besides a conservative president. It's amazing how many times I'm reading 312. Thank you. Restore Trump, restore Trump's mandate, restore what Trump said, restore what Trump did that. Yes.

Nitra (01:47:47.464)
in the

Marlon Ausby (01:47:49.115)
312 times.

Adesoji Iginla (01:47:53.161)
You

Nitra (01:47:59.8)
right.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:48:00.525)
It's a very thinly veiled.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:48:05.595)
very thinly veiled way of really saying who they want in power. And again, what's going to happen when they get that power. Here's another thing that they're saying, eliminates men's preventative services from the women's preventative services mandates. In December, 2021, HR, this is page 485, HRSA updated its women's preventative services guidelines to include male condoms.

Adesoji Iginla (01:48:11.0)
Yeah

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:48:34.467)
And now they don't want that included. It's like, so we can't get any contraceptive pills, but also we can't use condoms for preventative healthcare either to protect ourselves. With training medical doctors communicate to medical schools that any abortion related training must be on an upped in rather than an upped out basis.

Nitra (01:48:46.865)
Yeah

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:49:03.555)
Now as someone who experienced four miscarriages at different stages, what is the medical difference between a spontaneous abortion, which is what a miscarriage is and an induced abortion. So if you're going to train medical people, but then I come to a doctor and the doctor or to a medical facility and the doctor says, I opted out of this training. Do I just bleed out?

on the hospital floor because instead of you learning everything about how to protect life, not just the babies, but also the mothers, they have said, opt out. Let's go on.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:49:50.907)
Hold on. my God. Like I have so much underlined in here. I can't cover it all. the life agenda page four 89, the office of the secretary should eliminate the HHS reproductive healthcare access task force and install a pro life task force to ensure that all of that. Yes, but it's like pro who's life though. Who's life are you pro? Cause you're not my pro my life.

Adesoji Iginla (01:50:11.276)
The pro life. Yeah, Dax Force.

Marlon Ausby (01:50:11.298)
Task Force.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:50:19.641)
Because when a woman here in Texas said, I've got a stillborn baby in me. Can you guys get this out? It's causing me all of the, and they were like, nope, let nature do its part. Does my life count? Okay. So it says all the pro life task force to ensure that all of the department's divisions seek to use the authority to promote the life and health of women and their born children.

Nitra (01:50:26.496)
Mm -hmm.

Marlon Ausby (01:50:35.758)
Yeah,

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:50:46.147)
Now these same people, if you talk to them about the death penalty, what these same people, you talk to them about paying families, living wages so they can take care of their children. No, these same people are the ones who are saying reverse the affordable care act. These are the same people who are saying, no, we should not cover pre -existing conditions. These are the same people who are saying we're not going to expand Medicare. How are you pro life?

Nitra (01:50:50.548)
Therefore.

Adesoji Iginla (01:50:56.971)
Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:51:15.333)
Please tell

Adesoji Iginla (01:51:18.509)
speak.

Marlon Ausby (01:51:20.239)
Double speed.

Adesoji Iginla (01:51:21.304)
Double speak. Double speak.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:51:24.411)
Okay, listen to this one, page 492. Recends legal analysis that authorized HHS to impose a moratorium on rental evictions during COVID. I am an attorney. I am often in small claims courts. Do you know how many Americans went under? Because depending on what field you worked in, and if you were an hourly employee,

Nitra (01:51:49.672)
yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:51:52.205)
If your business closed down, if your business suddenly wasn't getting orders, you weren't making any money, but you still had bills coming in. And so many people were so horribly impacted by this pandemic and the wealthy were able to like, like the Tom Brady's and so many members of Congress were able to apply for and get all that COVID money. Do you all remember that? Buy purchase stocks. Yeah.

Nitra (01:51:52.522)
Mm -hmm.

Adesoji Iginla (01:52:16.536)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it got written off as well.

Nitra (01:52:16.64)
Okay.

Marlon Ausby (01:52:17.509)
I'll be there.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:52:20.731)
And I've got written off, but we can't forgive school debt. But now you are saying don't put a moratorium on rental evictions. You're not saying that the people, you're not saying you're wiping their debt clean. You're saying don't just throw them out on the streets yet. Give them a chance to get their feet back under them. And this, these people in a 922 page document, it was important to them to say,

Nitra (01:52:21.152)
Yep, and you're forgiven.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:52:50.491)
Nah, let's go back to increasing the percentage of homeless people, but we're pro -family. Then they have, they have on page 493, Office for Civil Rights, conscience enforcement, existing statutes that protect rights of conscience, such as the church, cold snow, and Weldon amendments, do not explicitly provide a private right

Nitra (01:52:57.258)
Right.

Adesoji Iginla (01:52:57.922)
yet in the same

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:53:17.431)
That would allow victims to seek legal redress in court So we are against reparations except when it applies to I want to discriminate against Homosexual I want to discriminate against you know a woman I want to discriminate against a black person whatever then if you hold them accountable for that We want legal redress and we want reparations for them. They also want reparations for anybody

Because of the vaccine mandates maybe lost their jobs. They want them to get paid but for black people who can demonstrate 250 plus years of free labor. We have no recreation that is critical race theory and why would you bring that up and Then it goes on page 5 10 anyone bought a house and needed to get what's it called?

Marlon Ausby (01:54:04.943)
Mm -hmm

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:54:14.821)
the additional insurance you get.

Nitra (01:54:18.128)
of blood insurance or, the mortgage insurance like the, for the point.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:54:19.803)
No, no, no, no, this is to help Yes PMI or something like that. Okay. This is what they say FHA leadership should increase the mortgage insurance premium For all products above 20 -year terms and maintain mortgage insurance premium for all products below 20 -year terms and all refinances so Again, who are you penalizing?

Nitra (01:54:27.614)
Yeah.

Marlon Ausby (01:54:28.783)
Yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:54:47.905)
Eliminate the new housing supply fund. Repeal the affirmatively furthering fair housing regulation.

Marlon Ausby (01:54:50.437)
Yeah, The workers, everyday working Americans, that's who you should know because I mean, so, and basically that last part, you get an FHA loan, it's mandatory that you get a certain type of insurance, You know what I'm saying? This mortgage insurance premium. And they're saying raise that rate, you know, and it's pretty.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:55:07.493)
Yeah.

Marlon Ausby (01:55:18.531)
It's pretty pricey as it is, like, like compared to like regular, you know, regular home insurance, you know. so yeah, that's, yeah, that's just more, more mess.

Nitra (01:55:27.336)
They also, one other thing I want to mention.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:55:29.391)
Now here's the thing for those of you who are married to non -citizens and I see a lot of our military folk, you guys go overseas, you come back with a spouse from another country. This is what they said. The office of the secretary should recommence proposed regulation put forward under the Trump administration that would prohibit non -citizens, including all mixed status families.

So if I'm a citizen and I married someone who's not a citizen, they're going through the green card process or whatever the case may be, prohibit them from living in all federally assisted housing. Why such hatred?

Marlon Ausby (01:56:10.725)
Can't live on post now, now you can't live on post.

Nitra (01:56:14.166)
One other thing I want to mention too is they're messing with, you know, the families and there's another part of this that they're messing with and that's your money. Okay. So regular people, when you go to work every day, they're talking about extending the timeframe for how you can calculate overtime. They're talking about allowing it to be

instead of it being with the Department of Labor, it would be actually something that's decided by the employer. They're saying to extend. instead of you clocking your overtime hours weekly, they're saying put it over a four week period instead of one week, which is wild to me because what if your employer puts you off the next week? Let's say you don't work the next week.

Well, you're not considered, that's not considered overtime. Even though in that first week of the four week period, you worked maybe 60 hours. Well, after that four week period is up, when they come back to calculate it, if you haven't reached that number of hours that they set, then you don't get overtime. So they messing with your money. Like it's not just them.

going after these cultural things. They're messing with money.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:57:44.965)
they need to put that in place? What is the impetus? What is the end goal for putting such a policy in place? To screw with us. Yeah. For the rich to get richer, to keep exploiting. Yes.

Nitra (01:57:58.132)
Yeah. And for us and to work us to death, I think, is to just work us to death. Somebody is gonna, there's gonna be a person who is going to try and make sure they reach those overtime hours. And they're gonna be working themselves to death over a four week period. Instead of getting their hours in for the week, they're gonna be looking at, they're gonna be sitting there calculating how they're gonna have to work over

four weeks instead of one week. I'm just, to me, that's also saying that you don't have to pay me that week either. You can wait four weeks until you pay me my overtime. Well, I'm working overtime right now. It's bad enough if you get paid every two weeks. You gotta wait two weeks till you get that overtime. What they saying? Well, no, cause this is gonna be separate. We gonna look at it at a four week period.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:58:37.782)
Thank

Adesoji Iginla (01:58:37.86)
laughter

Nitra (01:58:54.518)
which you then may get a separate check and who knows they might tax you differently on your overtime than what they do with the regular time. So this is not for the working class. This is not for the work, everyday working class people. Now they know, know the rich people won't have those problems. Rich people not counting overtime. They not looking at they check to see if they do it 40 or 50 hours this week. This is, they are going

Marlon Ausby (01:58:59.564)
Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (01:59:06.454)
Mmm.

Marlon Ausby (01:59:08.685)
Yeah, it's very... anti -labor, yes, anti -labor, like crazy.

Nitra (01:59:23.54)
the lower class, specifically the poor and the working class. So it's not just women in abortion. Men, if you work overtime, they taking you overtime, okay? That's what they wanna do. It's here in the

Marlon Ausby (01:59:40.532)
They're have overtime moratoriums and stuff.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (01:59:44.635)
Now I I want you guys to consider this right These are the same people who are making the argument for school vouchers and how it's going to be so helpful Okay. Now, please pay attention to this part. It's gonna be a little long, but let me read it page 511 Obviously using government vouchers, this is about housing Using government vouchers or other such programs to expand housing choice options. It's not without its downsides

Nitra (01:59:44.894)
Right?

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:00:14.267)
They're not talking about downsides for school vouchers, but hold on. The turn towards mobility vouchers constitutes an abandonment of America's public housing stock. How does the turn towards school vouchers not constitute an abandonment of public schools? Okay, let me continue. I'm not making this up. It's on page 511 if you want to go check. Okay.

Adesoji Iginla (02:00:37.016)
Mm -hmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:00:42.555)
Efforts to increase competition in the public housing market must not come at the expense of local autonomy and the ability of cities, towns, neighborhoods, and communities to choose for themselves the sort of housing they want to to allow. Freedom of association and self -government at the most local level possible must remain primary considerations in any conservative effort.

to increase competition in the public housing market. But don't give them vouchers, because that's going to mess stuff up. But then they continue.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:01:22.765)
In the same manner congress should prioritize And any and all legislative support for the single family home Remember how they define single family so if So if I am taking care of my parents and my parents are living with me and my children are also living with me That is not a single family according to their definition. Okay, so Home ownership forms the backbone of the american dream. Of course, we can all embrace

Adesoji Iginla (02:01:35.885)
Mm -hmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:01:51.759)
The purchase of a home is the largest investment most Americans will make in their lifetimes and ownership remains the most accessible will, sorry, the most accessible way to build generational wealth for millions of Americans. But then which Americans are we talking about? Cause listen to this sentence. For these reasons, American homeowners and citizens know best what is in the interest of their neighborhoods and communities. Look.

rather than the federal government must have the final say in zoning laws and regulations and the conservative administration should oppose any efforts to weaken single -family zoning. What are they saying? We want to keep you quote unquote undesirables away. We the American citizens put in quotes white folk

Adesoji Iginla (02:02:28.472)
I

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:02:46.701)
of a certain caliber will determine whether you are worthy to live in our neighborhoods or not, and so on and so forth. So again, for people who are saying, should I pay attention to this? Does it matter? Does my vote matter? Listen, if our votes didn't matter, they wouldn't be working so hard to ensure that we don't vote. And this is what I have to say to our generation.

Adesoji Iginla (02:03:07.758)
sure.

Marlon Ausby (02:03:08.825)
True.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:03:12.343)
We were born, most of us, and handed a certain set of rights that we didn't fight for. We better not with your, many of us are watching the Olympics. You don't want to be the one on that relay race who doesn't hand the baton to the next runner. Cause you done dropped it or you stopped to go in and sniff something. I don't know what you want to be running your race hard and you want to be ready to hand over that

Let our generation out of willful ignorance not be the one that leaves our children with less rights and opportunities than were handed to us.

Marlon Ausby (02:03:56.859)
effects.

Nitra (02:03:57.974)
I agree 100%. We take for granted what we have until it's gone. it has to be a constant. We have to be constantly putting in our kids' head that freedom you gonna continuously fight for. So it may be easy.

Marlon Ausby (02:04:25.819)
Yeah.

Nitra (02:04:26.454)
right now, may be, it may, you may feel like it's, it's cool and it's chill, but Project 2025 is not going nowhere. So I have to teach my nieces and nephews that's under me that don't see how a Project 2025 can affect them. I have to teach them that you better make sure with all your being that a Project 2025 don't sneak up on you.

That means you gotta always stay with your head on the swivel because they coming for it. These people want ultimate control over everyone else. They want all the power and they want the control over others and they not gonna stop at it. It's continuous. They're gonna continue asking or not asking, continue taking.

Adesoji Iginla (02:05:01.144)
Yep.

Adesoji Iginla (02:05:19.352)
Mm

Nitra (02:05:19.894)
from us. That's what they're set out to do. And that's what this project 2025 is about. It's just taken. I don't see anything about them giving us nothing. This whole document is just only about taking away things. It's not giving us anything.

Marlon Ausby (02:05:30.522)
See you.

Marlon Ausby (02:05:37.379)
And they're going to present it in nice language. This is the Black Coats. This is the nadir. This is the time after reconstruction. This is the red summer. This is what this is. This is what this is. It's just they remixed it every decade. They come with something new. This is the latest. It's like Nature said. It's like Aya said. It's going to come back around.

Nitra (02:05:40.81)
Mm -hmm.

Adesoji Iginla (02:06:04.418)
Mm -hmm.

Marlon Ausby (02:06:05.497)
And this is how you, you know, this is one way to deal with it. It's like, like what Aya said about running the race. We all have to figure out which way we want to run the race and we can't be too hard on people who we don't agree with the way that they're running. Find somebody who run the race that, you know, they're running the relay that you want to be a part of and get involved, you know, and get involved, spend more energy coalition building, bridge building, you know, versus finger waving, you know, and being, and being critical.

Adesoji Iginla (02:06:25.111)
Mm.

Marlon Ausby (02:06:35.387)
Because as you can see, they're organized. They're organized. They're they have in their huddles. You know, so we got to have our huddles and we have to commission documents like this. Maybe we don't commission a 900 page document, but maybe we, maybe we can commission a nine page document. Maybe we can set aside some money, you know, so I can take, you know, a month off, you know, and,

Adesoji Iginla (02:06:41.826)
Huh.

Marlon Ausby (02:07:00.513)
and produce something that we can distribute out on social media. Because that's the new venue for right now. You could do more damage with a tweet a lot of times than you can laying down on somebody's highway in protest.

So, we just gotta make sure we use all the tools that we have at our disposal. But this is what this is. This is all the stuff you read about in history, all these atrocities that you read about all across, the Maafa, you know I mean? All across, no matter where we were under siege at, no matter what hemisphere, continent, this is another iteration of it. This is another iteration of it. People are gonna look back on this document and ask, what did you do?

What did you do? How did you respond to this? you know, so, so please. And it's the Heritage Foundation, you know, it's the Heritage Foundation right now. You know, it could be Cato in four years. It could be American Enterprise Institute, you know, in eight years. So, you know, you have to, you know, you just keep your eyes open, you

Nitra (02:08:14.752)
Yeah, it's up to us. It's up to us.

Adesoji Iginla (02:08:14.871)
Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:08:19.323)
I know that we are way over time. I think that we would really be remiss if we do not say something about chapter 18

Adesoji Iginla (02:08:28.309)
Go

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:08:31.649)
Reverse the DEI revolution in labor policy. Eliminate racial specifications and critical race theory trainings. Issue an executive order banning and Congress should pass a law prohibiting the federal government from using taxpayer dollars to fund all critical race theory training. They don't tell you what critical race theory is. They can't define it, right? So this is anything that they want it to be. This will be a catch

Nitra (02:08:36.086)
I can't believe

Adesoji Iginla (02:08:36.919)
I'm

Nitra (02:08:54.262)
Exactly.

Adesoji Iginla (02:08:59.298)
Yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:09:02.067)
It goes on Eliminate ee. I eo one data collection the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission collects data on employment statistics based on race ethnicity Which data can then be used to support a change of discrimination under a disparate impact theory? This could lead to racial quality quotas to remedy Alleged race discrimination, so we don't want to know if there's a problem or not. Just eliminate collecting all the

Nitra (02:09:28.128)
Thank you.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:09:30.017)
See no evil, hear no evil, know there's no evil. So when you come and say, there's a problem here, well, prove it. Well, we can't prove it because we don't collect data. well, then you have no case. OK, it goes on. The next administration should work with Congress to amend Title VII to prohibit the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission from collecting EO data and any other racial classification in employment for both private and public workplaces. Why is this?

Adesoji Iginla (02:09:31.539)
Renovable.

Nitra (02:09:37.16)
Yes, you can.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:09:57.571)
in a country that was based built on racism. Why is this so important to them? So for those of you who were saying, we're not going with the Democrats because you know, they're, they come for our reparations. Let me tell you, if we're not collecting any data, then none of, nobody's getting reparations. Forget it. So like use your brain and I'm not trying to put anybody down, but I'm just saying this is a time for us to really think critically about this stuff.

Nitra (02:10:16.476)
Exactly. You're

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:10:27.309)
If these people are saying your race doesn't count, we don't want to know anything. What makes you think that voting them into power or sitting out, which is a vote in and of itself, it's going to help you get what you say you want. Okay. Let's continue. Eliminate disparate impact as a valid theory of discrimination for race and other basis on the title seven and other laws. They are on this race thing. Sign an executive order explicitly forbidding OFCCP from using disparate impact in its analysis.

We're not going to look at wait a second Maybe the reason why the majority of Supreme Court justices are male and not female is because you guys only hire male Fauclark so so on and so forth. No, we're not looking at all that. it goes on sex discrimination the Biden administration LGBT Advocates and some federal courts have attempted to expand the scope and definition of sex discrimination

Nitra (02:11:08.192)
Thank you.

Adesoji Iginla (02:11:08.78)
male lawyers,

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:11:28.489)
Based on the boss stop the Clayton County bus talk held that an employer who fires someone simply for being homosexual or transgender violates the title seven's prohibition against sex discrimination The court explicitly limited its holding to the hiring firing context in title seven and did not report to address other title seven issues So they want to make sure let's go back to discriminating against

anyone who is not like us. The new administration should restrict both stocks application of sex discrimination protections to sexual orientation and transgender status in the context of hiring and firing. The president should direct agencies to withdraw unlawful notices and guidances purporting to apply Bostock's reasoning broadly outside of hiring and firing.

Resent regulations prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation gender identity transgender status and sex characteristics So yeah, if you or anyone you love or know or if you just care about humanity is in any way considered to be LGBTQIA they're coming for you and then it just It goes on provide robust protections for religious employers. What they really mean is Christian employers because

Marlon Ausby (02:12:48.024)
Thank you.

Adesoji Iginla (02:12:49.336)
Krista and employers.

Nitra (02:12:50.068)
Yes.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:12:50.669)
a slim employer started to put up certain things or if I put up, you know, one of my alters, it would be to Yamaya or whatever, like, witchcraft and so on and so forth. Issue an executive order protecting religious employers and employees.

Adesoji Iginla (02:12:58.513)
No, no.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:13:09.531)
Listen, we don't have enough time. don't, this is going back to this work thing that Nitro was talking about, page 589. Congress should clarify that overtime for telework applies only if the employee exceeds 10 hours of work in a specific day.

Nitra (02:13:25.366)
they mad about their telework they mad about their telework No, no more telework it's this It's wow They want you in the office so that they can berate you and Have that workplace politics BS and who always get the brunt of it. It's always

Adesoji Iginla (02:13:49.464)
Mm -hmm.

Nitra (02:13:55.178)
black people or black women, but it's always black people that we don't, like that stuff is crazy to us. That whole little workplace politics stuff. Like that's crazy to me. Like having to deal with all of these, different microaggressions, telework gets rid of that. I don't have to deal with

Adesoji Iginla (02:14:17.807)
and

Nitra (02:14:22.006)
I don't have to deal with you trying to micromanage me. But for them, no, no more telework. We put you back in, in the office for no reason, by the way, because we know that studies show that people were more productive when they worked from home than when they worked in the office. But they don't care about that. They just want you to be in the office so that they can basically lord over

and look at you and then have you subjected to their BS.

Cause it goes into some more. The EEOC, that's wild. The way they wanna get rid of EEOC, that protects you at work from different races, attacks, discrimination. You go to EEOC to help fight on your behalf if something like that is happening. That's like the guy.

that won that huge lawsuit through Tesla, against Tesla. He had to go through EEOC in order for him to be able to even initiate that lawsuit. So he got a pretty nice, generous settlement. It's horrible that he had to go through it for what, 17 years or something? It was like 17 to 13 years, something like that. But he had to go through EEOC.

Adesoji Iginla (02:15:41.202)
Mmm.

Nitra (02:15:55.274)
that he didn't have to go and hire a lawyer and pay a lawyer to fight to prove that his job was racist and discriminatory. He had an arm of the government that's supposed to protect us from those type of mistreatments. So he had EEOC that was able to go and fight on his behalf so that he could sue Tesla and get the hundred

$20 million or so from the jury. And they don't want to EOC. They want to get rid of them, no

Adesoji Iginla (02:16:31.986)
Elon Musk. Musk.

Marlon Ausby (02:16:34.555)
musky ass but man how about the h the h2a visas did y 'all see that putting american workers first on page 611 you know yeah yeah a labor agenda focused on the strength of american families must put american workers first is the family necessarily puts the interests of his members

Adesoji Iginla (02:16:45.122)
Yeah, yeah, close the border, close the border.

No.

Marlon Ausby (02:16:59.405)
So too the United States must put the interests of American workers first. It's that national, that protectionism, nationalism shit, Immigration, the H2A visa meant to allow, this is so ridiculous, meant to allow temporary agricultural workers into the United States also suffers from frequent employer abuse. there goes the slight of hand,

Adesoji Iginla (02:17:05.218)
Black jobs.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:17:23.929)
Yep.

Marlon Ausby (02:17:24.121)
We're trying to help the workers because the employers are abusing these folks, right? The low cost of H2A workers undercuts American, now this is ridiculous shit right here, undercuts American workers in agricultural employment.

Nitra (02:17:28.756)
Yeah, watch, watch how I switch up though.

Nitra (02:17:42.62)
as

Adesoji Iginla (02:17:44.238)
my god

Marlon Ausby (02:17:44.919)
I used to pass these strawberry fields when I lived in Tampa, right? Hot sun, no shade trees, no nothing. And these people, I'm thinking Central South America, know, out there picking these strawberries. And I never saw anybody like, yo, that should be me. I never saw an American person like, that should be me. I should be out

Adesoji Iginla (02:18:01.41)
Hoovering

Marlon Ausby (02:18:13.445)
picking those strawberries in the sun. Like nobody's fighting over the, unless I'm wrong. If somebody in the chat knows somebody that's supposed to be picking, that lost a strawberry picking job, you know, let me know, you know, and then, and then, so that's agricultural workers. Then it goes down to H2B workers, right? So,

Adesoji Iginla (02:18:22.645)
No,

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:18:25.46)
A black job?

Nitra (02:18:28.662)
Yeah.

Marlon Ausby (02:18:40.025)
for non -agricultural seasonal workers suffer from many of the same harms and abuses, right? Albeit lesser scope because of its cap and distribution across many sectors. Hmm, I wonder what some of those sectors are, right?

Adesoji Iginla (02:18:52.64)
You

Nitra (02:18:53.27)
construction.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:18:54.235)
I mean, it could include models, models from certain, from certain that come in. No, you talking about real work. I'm talking about how his wife came in. She came in, she came in a visa to model, right? And then entered with a non -sign whatever visa. Yes, yes, sir.

Adesoji Iginla (02:18:57.752)
Hotel Walkers, Hotel

Nitra (02:18:59.392)
constraint.

Marlon Ausby (02:19:01.515)
nurses. It's so many.

Marlon Ausby (02:19:11.483)
yeah that's true wow you're right

Adesoji Iginla (02:19:11.918)
okay, okay, okay, alright, alright, alright.

Nitra (02:19:12.68)
yeah. Right.

Marlon Ausby (02:19:23.695)
And that's probably why, probably for the first time that I saw in this document, they presented an alternative view for the H2B visa, right? Because it was like, wait, know, daddy might get mad at us because this is how his wife came in. So let's clean this

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:19:23.702)
Nitra (02:19:32.96)
Yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:19:38.087)
Because look at how much millennia has added to the American,

Nitra (02:19:43.99)
What?

Adesoji Iginla (02:19:46.272)
Yeah, what do you care?

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:19:46.637)
Yeah, where would we where would be where would we be as a country if she didn't come in become our first lady?

Marlon Ausby (02:19:53.787)
Exactly, exactly. So this

Adesoji Iginla (02:19:54.734)
True, true, true, Value to the office.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:19:57.051)
Okay, so just so we can laugh as we end here page 599 this is hilarious but not They are talking about unions and why having unions is a problem, right? So they said federal labor law offers no alternatives to labor unions Whose politic in an adversarial approach appeals to few we don't need any data to prove this we do we just gonna say

Adesoji Iginla (02:20:26.594)
appears to few.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:20:26.967)
Whereas yeah appeals to few whereas most workers report that they prefer a more cooperative model run jointly with management Tell me where that's worked that focuses solely on workplace issues So here's their recommendation the next administration should make new options available to workers and push Congress to pass labor reforms that create

Adesoji Iginla (02:20:46.871)
Mm

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:20:56.02)
non -union employee involvement organizations.

Adesoji Iginla (02:21:01.73)
What?

Nitra (02:21:02.71)
This thing was that whole part there was so convoluted because it tries to say that it's for the workers. And then it's.

Adesoji Iginla (02:21:05.271)
What?

Marlon Ausby (02:21:08.507)
That's, yeah, this is a crazy paragraph. This is a crazy

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:21:11.387)
That fight is so stupid. We don't want you here.

Marlon Ausby (02:21:20.015)
And you know that labor unions whose politic and adversarial approach appeals to few. Wait, wait a minute. We talking about the job market. Markets are adversarial by nature. One side is trying to win. One side is trying to advocate for itself.

Nitra (02:21:31.434)
Bye.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:21:31.599)
Wait a second.

the employers.

Nitra (02:21:37.918)
And then, but they put it as they're giving a voice to the workers. That's how it's.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:21:45.251)
Yeah, but so what is that group called? The employee involvement organization. How is that different from a labor union or do you just put this in place so you can weaken labor unions and create more groups that fight each other internally while the boss stays there and is untouched because now the employee involvement organization is fighting the labor union and the, the, and Bezos and Ella Musk are counting their money.

Nitra (02:21:53.194)
From the union!

Nitra (02:22:05.255)
Exactly.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:22:14.859)
Yeah, that's right.

Nitra (02:22:16.387)
It's, yeah, it's, it's, instead of it being stronger together to, to, actually get to the, the people at the top, they want it, you know, split all up into different factions so that they, they, really don't even ha they don't put a dent in the American corporation that's that these workers is fighting for. Because it's to me, it's

First of all, you're putting in here about, let's get rid of, now this is your plan for the future of America. You're putting in here to get rid of unions, yet you're not addressing why unions exist. So in your new world, stop these corporations from abusing the employees. And then there wouldn't be a need for the unions.

Adesoji Iginla (02:23:01.238)
No.

Nitra (02:23:11.69)
But you're saying, no, no, no, we're gonna keep our corporations in there. They're gonna do whatever it is that they wanna do. And we're gonna get rid of the system now that's protecting the workers. And we're just gonna put in a new system that is supposedly geared toward the workers, yet you still want the workers to have to fight for whatever it is that they want. Like, just take it away.

Put something in place where the corporations won't abuse the employees and they give them their fair share of wages, of benefits, of workplace safety, and whatever else it is that the unions don't have to fight for. The unions are fighting for basic needs. That's why they exist.

Adesoji Iginla (02:24:00.226)
that's anti -American to have

Marlon Ausby (02:24:05.211)
Yeah, and people, people got to understand some like I grew up in Florida. That's a right. That's a that it was been a right to work state long as I can remember, right? It's going to be it's hard to find big, big, you know, big labor in Florida, right? I don't know how Texas is. But but you know, but but my mom, she moved to Michigan when I was 16. I went up there to visit her and I got a job immediately, a well -paying job. And I got to see like unions operate up close. And it was eye opening.

Nitra (02:24:20.214)
I was saying.

Marlon Ausby (02:24:35.235)
And I'll tell anybody because we assume, know, we can be us on this call can assume that everybody knows, you know, about organized labor. But for the people that's watching this, come from right to work states and don't have a lot of labor engagement. Just think about it this way. Have you ever, have you ever worked at a big company or just worked at a company where the management was not organized?

If the management is not organized, the ownership is not, if the management is organized and the ownership is organized, and by that I mean you get your check with regularity, right? They give you a time to come in. If they're organized, why shouldn't labor be organized? Why should you have to fend for yourself, right? Management don't exist in silos, right? They report up higher. They're incredibly organized. They're incredibly organized. Don't you deserve the same thing?

Don't you deserve to be organized? So I'll just say

Adesoji Iginla (02:25:36.75)
Any last words guys? Project 2025?

Nitra (02:25:43.382)
So I'll just say in closing, we have to take this seriously. like they told us before how they pointed out that they pointed out the number of times that the president was used, the number of times that they mentioned the executive.

branch. This plan here is heavily focused on elected officials. So the only way we can counter that is by us actually voting. We cannot get away from voting. It doesn't matter what system you have, you're still going to have some form of government. This here

the best way we can counter this is with the vote. Because these people are voted in, but once they plan is in place, it's no longer in your hands. You no longer.

Adesoji Iginla (02:26:56.79)
the rap.

Marlon Ausby (02:26:56.955)
They down with the people to the next election.

Adesoji Iginla (02:26:59.456)
It's a wrap.

Nitra (02:26:59.604)
Yeah, yeah, that's it. They done with it. the best, your best tool, if you wanna fight this, is to go and vote and take somebody with you. If you vote for the other side, and this is a, we're in political parties, let's just get over it, okay? That's just what it is right now. We can fight for other type of party systems, you

Adesoji Iginla (02:27:27.65)
later on.

Nitra (02:27:27.836)
another time or simultaneously. But right now we have two sides. We have Democrats and we have Republicans. This is a plan for Republicans, quote unquote, conservatives, because that's what they put in here, MAGA. And you have the other side. You have to go and get your people out to vote. Not for the MAGA. Yeah, I'm telling you, don't vote for

You gotta vote for the other side so that you can actually have a voice to continue fighting for the little freedoms that we do have because we know the other side, we're still fighting the other side too. We're not just parlaying over here on the Democratic Party side. We still have to fight for the rights that we have and it has to continue. So take your young people with you, get them out to

They're voting against Project 2025 by voting for a Democrat. Put a Democrat in there and then fight the Democrat like hell for what you want in your neighborhood, in your city, in your town. Don't sit down and let them decide what they're going to do with you. You fight them for what you want. But the first thing we got to do is get Project 2025 out the paint. We got to get them out the paint. That's what we got to do.

Adesoji Iginla (02:28:30.082)
Thank you.

Nitra (02:28:52.499)
And that's

Marlon Ausby (02:28:52.739)
I had to pay, that Houston came out.

Nitra (02:28:57.374)
It did, it did, it did. But y 'all know what I'm saying, we gotta get them out to paint. So that's all I have.

Adesoji Iginla (02:29:04.29)
Thank you, Nitra. Thank you. See you later.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:29:10.371)
I know where to end. Sister Neetra, I appreciate everything that you had to say. Yeah, this is not about Democratic or Republican in the sense of you have to choose a party affiliation. I think it's about looking at who right now will do you the least harm.

you know, so that you can have enough space to plan and organize and figure out how you're really going to fight for your liberation. And right now I have to say that it is the Democratic Party who has all kinds of flaws and issues as well. And as Nitra said, then you put the pressure on them to deliver.

If there's anyone who saying I can sit this out, this does not concern me. You have not paid attention. We couldn't get through everything in here, but these guys are even coming for unemployment compensation. They are even saying, well, let's leave it up to the states. And if they have an alternative to unemployment compensation, these people are diabolical in how they are going after everything that actually helps.

to allow people to live a life of any dignity, where you are not completely destitute. From birth, to your schooling, to your healthcare, to your job, to where you live, to after you've worked hard, where you've put your money. They're coming after everything and it is not a joke. And so my last words would be,

Each one teach one This is going to be on youtube Share share share get other people maybe click little snippets for those who don't have a long attention span They can take any 10 minutes of this and learn something new Please go and check your voter registration in my little county The republicans have lined up 42 000 plus Registered voters who are now on the suspense suspended list

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:31:21.347)
And if they do not go and cure their quote unquote, their registrations or re -register, they are not going to be able to vote. And the deadline to register is I believe October 7th. And so that's the other thing that we all should be doing. Just like we talk to people about, hey, did you see so -and -so won this gold medal or so -and -so? You need to be calling people. Don't take anything for granted. Are you registered to vote? Okay, let's go and take care of that. For people who think they're still on paper,

And you know what I mean? You were convicted of a crime and you're not sure that you can vote. You can actually go and check that. You can check that with your local electoral office, your elections office. You can contact an attorney that deals with these kinds of things and or go to the Democratic party and say, I need to know. There are certain entities that will sit down and work with you and make sure, okay, yes, you did have this felony, but you are cleared to...

to register to vote, you are clear to vote. Do not disqualify yourself because you're afraid of the dog whistles there. And then make a plan for going out to vote and for taking. I'm personally saying, Aya, if you don't get 25 people, yourself individually to the polls.

Because I just feel very strongly like Marlon said When your children and your children's children ask you what you did during this critical time What are you gonna say and for me I'm gonna be able to say baby. I stayed up late nights. I put my money I put my sweats I used whatever resources I have to educate people to register people to get people to the polling booth so that they can vote

Adesoji Iginla (02:33:11.008)
And you also printed out

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:33:11.083)
I did my best to fight this.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:33:16.559)
Thank you.

Adesoji Iginla (02:33:17.356)
The manifesto.

Marlon Ausby (02:33:21.947)
For the, you know, just to touch on the political that the good sisters was talking about. I'll say this, if you got a little heartburn, right? If you, you want to know super revolutionaries and the Democrats are too far to the right for you, I'll just pose, I'll pose you this quandary. Think about, who would you rather organize

Who would you rather organize against? Would you rather organize somebody who would outlaw organizing? Or somebody that maybe begrudgingly would still hear you out? Do what we're doing now. The four of us, Nubia, I know there's a lot of talk about the onyx society and everything like that. Listen, do what we're doing right

a new being reached out to me, say, come talk about this with me. Okay, I'm there. Guess what? I wanna hear about another discussion, right? On political action, on another discussion on Project 2025, right? It's no, it don't make any sense for 2 ,000 plus people to get together a couple of times a week, right? And we don't see.

the things that we're receiving, the information that we're receiving, we don't see it operationalized outside of our Nubia and narrative accounts, right? So we gotta start operationalizing this stuff, right? Do what we're doing right now. Get together, talk, right? Gather, break down your ballots, post the registration deadlines on social media, right? Break down your ballot. You can write your opinion.

Adesoji Iginla (02:34:49.55)
Mmm.

Marlon Ausby (02:35:10.587)
on everybody who's running, right? And share that, right? Like Project 2025 is one of many documents that will be coming out, right? In this long struggle that we're in, right? And just continue to spread the word, continue to get as active as you can, and stay encouraged.

Adesoji Iginla (02:35:42.402)
Well, what can I say? mean, it's been a truly, truly insightful discussion. Everyone of you spoke at length and with such passion that it's beyond.

It's beyond my wildest imagination as to why...

People cannot take this and run with it. And I hope they do. I'm just being, you know, I hope they do. And the reason I say that is this.

Growing up reading all the books with regards to all the struggles in the past, the likes of Martin Luther King, Kwame Turei, Malcolm X, Fannie Lou Hamer and what have you.

It doesn't behoove us if all of a sudden it stops

Adesoji Iginla (02:36:42.73)
was it not what's his name James Baldwin who incidentally turned a hundred years this year that just being an American alone is to live in a constant state of rage.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:36:59.267)
Mm.

Adesoji Iginla (02:37:00.376)
But you now got an opportunity. Historically, you'd be voting in a black woman.

You'll be voting

Adesoji Iginla (02:37:13.238)
An example of yourself. I mean, if you don't see that in your mother, you see that in your sister. If you don't see that in your sister, you see that in your wife. Go out there and campaign like crazy. I mean, I'm not an American, but I am an American by extension, by, I mean, I'm here sat with Americans. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

Marlon Ausby (02:37:37.275)
You got American family. You got American family.

Adesoji Iginla (02:37:42.326)
that I become much more vested. mean, since Professor Hunter turned on the press the record button, it's been like a journey. And so it's, you've embraced something that you can no longer just withdraw yourself from. And so when you see things, not only, I mean, you can't sympathize, you empathize because

It's an extension of yourself. So now seeing this document, I love to read. you know, seeing that document is like, okay, what's this thing about? You know, you keep hearing this, what's this thing about? And you read, it's like, wow, really? I'm sure people know about this stuff. And so when I reached out to Aya, Aya said, listen, we can do it in house and talk amongst ourselves.

That's when obviously seeing Sister Nutra doing her stuff, Malone coming in to office hours. And for those who don't know what office hours, it's our in -house discussion in Nubia. You you know there are people who are passionate about liberation. Liberation is, it's humanity. mean, they're talking about freedom.

but their freedom is in inverted commas, is to take away something from you. It's not to give you anything. It's the freedom for them to take. I mean, the book, the manifesto itself starts section one. It says, taking the reins of government. From whom? It's already with

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:39:14.287)
Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm.

Adesoji Iginla (02:39:33.9)
is already with you. So what are you taking? So the double speak. So I mean, not to go off on a rant. Thank you very much guys for coming. And it's, it's been a honor and a privilege to have not just yourselves, but also the people who are watching in the chats, you know, again, share this stuff and you know, let people derive.

information from it. is something in there for someone. And yes, thank you all and good night.

Aya Fubara Eneli, Esq. (02:40:14.723)
Thank you.